Re: [Ltru] Fwd: draft-davis-t-langtag-ext
Mark Davis ☕ <mark@macchiato.com> Thu, 07 July 2011 14:42 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Ltru] Fwd: draft-davis-t-langtag-ext
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Thanks for the feedback. We can make those corrections. One question. The primary reason that we chose to use a BCP was primarily because it provided a stable reference; the underlying RFCs can (and have) changed while "BCP47" has remained the same. Listing the current RFCs somewhat undercuts that. Note: if that is the practice we should do it, but it seems odd. Mark *— Il meglio è l’inimico del bene —* On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 20:55, Mykyta Yevstifeyev <evnikita2@gmail.com>wrote: > ** > Hello, > > I've identified the following issue in the draft. > > Section 2.2 says: > > The subtags in the 't' extension are of the following form: > > +--------+-------------------------+----------------------------+ > | Label | ABNF | Comment | > +--------+-------------------------+----------------------------+ > | t_ext= | "t" | Extension | > | | ("-" lang *("-" field) | Source + optional field(s) | > | | / 1*("-" field)) | Field(s) only (no source) | > | lang= | language | [BCP47 <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-davis-t-langtag-ext-01#ref-BCP47>], with restrictions | > | | ["-" script] | | > | | ["-" region] | | > | | *("-" variant) | | > | field= | sep 1*("-" 3*8alphanum) | With restrictions | > | sep= | 1ALPHA 1DIGIT | Subtag separators | > +--------+-------------------------+----------------------------+ > > > I should note that, first of all, reference to RFC 5234 is missing; > moreover, and this is more important, making the ABNF definition in the form > of table makes such definition an invalid one, in terms of RFC 5234. Also, > there are a number of ABNF nits here. So, please consider changing this to: > > The subtags in the 't' extension are of the following form, defined > using ABNF [RFC5234] in <t-ext> rule: > > t-ext = "t" ("-" lang *("-" field) / 1*("-" field)) > lang = langtag > field = sep 1*("-" 3*8alphanum) > sep = ALPHA DIGIT > alphanum = ALPHA / DIGIT > > where <langta> rule is specified in BCP 47 [BCP47], <ALPHA> and <DIGIT> > rules - in RFC 5234 [RFC5234]. > > Also, the minors comments on references. Reference to BCP 47 should > include both references to RFC 5646 and RFC 4647, like: > > [BCP47] Phillips, A. and M. Davis, "Matching of Language Tags", > BCP 47, RFC 4647, September 2006. > > Phillips, A., Ed., and M. Davis, Ed., "Tags for Identifying > Languages", BCP 47, RFC 5646, September 2009. > > ...and, referencing UTS 35 you shouldn't reference specific parts of the > document; this should be done in the text. Finally, I don't see where > [US-ASCII] is used in the text. > > Thanks, > Mykyta Yevstifeyev > > > 07.07.2011 2:49, Pete Resnick wrote: > > Most of the people on the ietf-languages list are probably on the > ltru@ietf.org list as well, but I wanted to confirm that everyone got a > chance to review this before it proceeded to the IESG. Please have a look at > the ltru archive > <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ltru/current/maillist.html><http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ltru/current/maillist.html>and send any comments to the > ltru@ietf.org list since that's where discussion seems to be taking place. > > Thanks. > > pr > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ltru mailing list > Ltru@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru > >
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- [Ltru] draft-davis-t-langtag-ext Mark Davis ☕
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- Re: [Ltru] Fwd: draft-davis-t-langtag-ext Mark Davis ☕
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- Re: [Ltru] Fwd: draft-davis-t-langtag-ext Debbie Garside
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- Re: [Ltru] Fwd: draft-davis-t-langtag-ext Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] Fwd: draft-davis-t-langtag-ext Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] draft-davis-t-langtag-ext Mark Davis ☕
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- Re: [Ltru] draft-davis-t-langtag-ext Pete Resnick
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- Re: [Ltru] Fwd: draft-davis-t-langtag-ext Mark Davis ☕
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