RE: [Ltru] Eliminating the preposterous ASCII ordering in lookup
"Addison Phillips" <addison@yahoo-inc.com> Wed, 22 February 2006 23:44 UTC
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From: Addison Phillips <addison@yahoo-inc.com>
To: 'Mark Davis' <mark.davis@icu-project.org>, 'John Cowan' <cowan@ccil.org>
Subject: RE: [Ltru] Eliminating the preposterous ASCII ordering in lookup
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:45:35 -0800
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It is merely an example of what one could do. It isn't obligatory. So it isn't that bad, I guess. We don't have text that requires a mapping to basic ranges at the moment and don't necessarily need to introduce it. On the other hand, I don't think I'd implement an algorithm that way and most underlying locale-like fallback systems will do as I suggested. Addison Addison Phillips Internationalization Architect - Yahoo! Inc. Internationalization is an architecture. It is not a feature. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Davis [mailto:mark.davis@icu-project.org] > Sent: 2006年2月22日 14:54 > To: John Cowan > Cc: ltru@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Ltru] Eliminating the preposterous ASCII ordering in lookup > > I'm guessing, but only a guess, that this is related to the following text: > > > For example, an implementation could return the matching content that > > is first in ASCII-order. For example, if the language range were > > "*-CH" and the set of content included "de-CH", "fr-CH", and "it-CH", > > then the content labeled "de-CH" would be returned. > "preposterous" is a overblown language. And I strongly disagree with > your proposed change. In the example there clearly *exists* content > matching *-CH. So returning the default content (which could be, say, > Japanese) is clearly *not* what I would have expected! > > There could, of course, be other strategies for picking a single tag to > return from lookup when there are multiple matches for a wildcard. But > whatever example we choose should not return something so clearly > disconnected from the user's desired outcome. And ASCII is simple to > explain. > > Mark > > John Cowan wrote: > > It's really laughable to suggest that implementations might use ASCII > > tag ordering to make fallback decisions on lookup. IMHO, the behavior > > of extended ranges on lookup should be: > > > > If the first subtag of a language range is '*' and it is > > followed by other ranges in a priority list, skip it. > > If the first subtag is '*' and there are no following > > ranges, return the default content. All other '*' subtags > > should be removed before lookup processing is done. > > > > That is simple, clear, to the point, straightforward, and doesn't > provide > > preposterous results. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ltru mailing list > Ltru@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
- Re: [Ltru] Eliminating the preposterous ASCII ord… Mark Davis
- [Ltru] Eliminating the preposterous ASCII orderin… John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Eliminating the preposterous ASCII ord… Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Eliminating the preposterous ASCII ord… Mark Davis
- RE: [Ltru] Eliminating the preposterous ASCII ord… Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Eliminating the preposterous ASCII ord… Randy Presuhn
- RE: [Ltru] Eliminating the preposterous ASCII ord… Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Eliminating the preposterous ASCII ord… Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Eliminating the preposterous ASCII ord… Randy Presuhn
- RE: [Ltru] Eliminating the preposterous ASCII ord… Martin Duerst