RE: [Ltru] Re: John Cowan throws in the towel on extlangs

Peter Constable <petercon@microsoft.com> Fri, 14 December 2007 22:01 UTC

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> From: John Cowan [mailto:cowan@ccil.org]

> 3) zh-cmn is being deprecated in favor of cmn.
>
> 4) People should think twice about using cmn rather than plain zh.

I mentioned on 12/8 that there are other cases that also need consideration. Here's what I wrote then:

<quote>
There is a deeper problem we should be considering: when does it make sense for people to use the macro-language or the individual-language IDs in cases like Swahili, Malay, etc.? In fact, when does it make sense to use which in cases for any macrolanguage ID in widespread use when there is a dominant encompassed language? This is an issue in these cases:

ar/ara vs. arb (Arabic)
kok vs. Knn (Konkani)
ms/msa vs. mly (Malay)
sw/swa vs. swh (Swahili)
uz/uzb vs. uzn (Uzbek)
zh/zho vs. cmn (Chinese)

These are all the cases in category 2 of 'Macrolanguage analysis.txt' which I sent as an attachment on 11/29. I didn't include Dogri as I had no indication that doi is widely used, but we can certainly include it for consideration of this issue.
</quote>

>From what you say in (4), it seems your suggestion would be that people should think twice about using the individual-language ID rather than the macrolanguage ID in *any* of these cases.


Peter


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