[Ltru] Re: What is EU for in locales?
"Doug Ewell" <dewell@roadrunner.com> Wed, 12 December 2007 04:15 UTC
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Subject: [Ltru] Re: What is EU for in locales?
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Addison Phillips <addison at yahoo dash inc dot com> wrote: >> I'd like to know what EU is supposed to be for. > > I believe the answer there is: it's a code for a region, whose display > name and other info you can retrieve. There is no "xx-EU" locale in > CLDR (or anywhere else that I'm aware of). But, but... this whole business got started a month ago when it was noted that CLDR used 'QU' for European Union, and Mark Davis expressed a desire to use 'EU' instead and also to use BCP 47 as the source for locale identifiers: Martin Dürst: "We clearly don't want to reopen every single discussion that we had leading to RFC 4646, but if necessary, we can reconsider some of thae decisions for RFC 4646bis. As an example, would it make sense for the LTRU WG to ask for permission from the ISO 3166-1/MA?" Mark Davis: "I'd be very much in favor of it -- CLDR only adds a very small number of codes to BCP 47 (it uses private use codes for compatibility). The QU code is a hack because we don't have EU, so it'd be very nice to get rid of that. (BTW, we don't really have to petition ISO to use it; if we want to use EU, there is nothing stopping us.)" So while there may be no "xx-EU" locale in CLDR, there was clearly a motivation to get 'EU' into the Language Subtag Registry so that CLDR could use it instead of 'QU' for *something*. > I think the main thing is not that EU is used in locale identifiers. > It is that BCP 47 provides a stabilized collection of regions, which > is useful in maintaining locale data. I liked it better when the LSR was just for language tagging. -- Doug Ewell * Fullerton, California, USA * RFC 4645 * UTN #14 http://home.roadrunner.com/~dewell http://www1.ietf.org/html.charters/ltru-charter.html http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/ietf-languages ˆ _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
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