RE: [Ltru] Re: extlang
Peter Constable <petercon@microsoft.com> Thu, 30 August 2007 21:25 UTC
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From: Peter Constable <petercon@microsoft.com>
To: Marion Gunn <mgunn@egt.ie>, LTRU Working Group <ltru@ietf.org>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:25:43 -0700
Subject: RE: [Ltru] Re: extlang
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I think it's fairly obvious that John was using the term as a convenience for our discussions with purely technical meaning that does not in any way imply a value judgment on any language variety. For that matter, "macrolanguage" as defined in ISO 639-3 also does not connote any value judgment on language varieties so designated, or even on their sociolinguistic status. It has a technical meaning given in ISO 639-3 that, I think, is clear in this regard. Peter > -----Original Message----- > From: Marion Gunn [mailto:mgunn@egt.ie] > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 11:05 AM > To: LTRU Working Group > Subject: Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang > > On 29 Aug 2007, at 13:13, scríobh John Cowan: > > > Note that it's the "microlanguages" (not an official term), the > > languages > > encompassed by macrolanguages, that are handled by extlang subtags... > > > > I strongly object to the use of the above unofficial term, which John > Cowan is now using this list to promote (as evidenced in a recent msg > from him, as cited below) and I believe that, if the administrators > of this list _fail_ to deprecate his use of such an objectionable > term, that this may be an appropriate time for representatives of the > National Bodies of governments of the countries whose indigenous > languages he has so denigrated (by his deliberate use of said > unofficial term) to withdraw any provisional support they may have > given until now to the use of the term "macrolanguages" (because that > provisional support for treating that term as "official" would seem > to be providing the opportunity to use an objectionable word to > denigrate languages without even naming them). > mg > > > > > - - > Marion Gunn * EGTeo (Estab.1991) > 27 Páirc an Fhéithlinn, Baile an > Bhóthair, Co. Átha Cliath, Éire. > * mgunn@egt.ie * eamonn@egt.ie * > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ltru mailing list > Ltru@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
- [Ltru] Re: IANA, UTF-8 and the Language Subtag Re… Frank Ellermann
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: IANA, UTF-8 and the Language Subtag Re… Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Gerard Meijssen
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- RE: [Ltru] Re: extlang Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: IANA, UTF-8 and the Language Subta… David Conrad
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Karen_Broome
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: IANA, UTF-8 and the Language Subta… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- [Ltru] Numerical region subtags (RE: extlang) Don Osborn
- Re: [Ltru] Numerical region subtags (RE: extlang) Addison Phillips
- [Ltru] Re: Numerical region subtags (RE: extlang) Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] RE: Numerical region subtags (RE: extlang) Don Osborn
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] extlang Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] extlang Randy Presuhn
- [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Martin Duerst
- Re: [Ltru] extlang Martin Duerst
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Martin Duerst
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Karen_Broome
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Re: extlang Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Marion Gunn
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Marion Gunn
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Marion Gunn
- [Ltru] Use of the string "microlangauges" Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Karen_Broome
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Re: extlang Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Marion Gunn
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang GerardM
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Re: extlang Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Marion Gunn
- [Ltru] Availability of ISO documents (Was: extlang Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Ltru] Availability of ISO documents (Was: ex… John Cowan
- [Ltru] Re: Availability of ISO documents (Was: ex… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] Re: Availability of ISO documents (Was: ex… Marion Gunn