RE: [Ltru] Re: extlang

Peter Constable <petercon@microsoft.com> Thu, 30 August 2007 21:25 UTC

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From: Peter Constable <petercon@microsoft.com>
To: Marion Gunn <mgunn@egt.ie>, LTRU Working Group <ltru@ietf.org>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:25:43 -0700
Subject: RE: [Ltru] Re: extlang
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I think it's fairly obvious that John was using the term as a convenience for our discussions with purely technical meaning that does not in any way imply a value judgment on any language variety.

For that matter, "macrolanguage" as defined in ISO 639-3 also does not connote any value judgment on language varieties so designated, or even on their sociolinguistic status. It has a technical meaning given in ISO 639-3 that, I think, is clear in this regard.



Peter


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marion Gunn [mailto:mgunn@egt.ie]
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 11:05 AM
> To: LTRU Working Group
> Subject: Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang
>
> On 29 Aug 2007, at 13:13, scríobh John Cowan:
>
> > Note that it's the "microlanguages" (not an official term), the
> > languages
> > encompassed by macrolanguages, that are handled by extlang subtags...
> >
>
> I strongly object to the use of the above unofficial term, which John
> Cowan is now using this list to promote (as evidenced in a recent msg
> from him, as cited below) and I believe that, if the administrators
> of this list _fail_ to deprecate his use of such an objectionable
> term, that this may be an appropriate time for representatives of the
> National Bodies of governments of the countries whose indigenous
> languages he has so denigrated (by his deliberate use of said
> unofficial term) to withdraw any provisional support they may have
> given until now to the use of the term "macrolanguages" (because that
> provisional support for treating that term as "official" would seem
> to be providing the opportunity to use an objectionable word to
> denigrate languages without even naming them).
> mg
>
>
>
>
> - -
> Marion Gunn * EGTeo (Estab.1991)
> 27 Páirc an Fhéithlinn, Baile an
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