Re: [Ltru] Re: Small bibliography error in RFC 4930

John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org> Mon, 18 June 2007 21:13 UTC

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To: Frank Ellermann <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de>
Subject: Re: [Ltru] Re: Small bibliography error in RFC 4930
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Frank Ellermann scripsit:

> Sometimes I think they're making up languages for non-technical
> reasons.

Sometimes I think so too, but I don't think this is one of them.
Low Saxon (or whatever you want to call it) is pretty clearly established,
though whether the non-Dutch dialects in the Netherlands are really all
that separate from it is a question.

> > fy-DE could never have been more than a hack like zh-TW for
> > zh-Hant: is it North Frisian, or is it Saterfrisian
> 
> All you can know is that it's not West Frisian (fy since 2006).
> 
> For the frr suppress-Latn registration request I tried to find
> some background info, apparently frr is subdivided into three
> or more variants.

Pretty much mainlander, islander (except Sylt which is no longer
Frisian-speaking in practice), and Heligolander.  Of course, finer
distinctions can be and are made.

> I'd guess that that's no language, when nds-folks speak "de"
> they end up with a rather pure "de".

Well, that's what de is:  High German syntax in Low German phonology
(cf. "lingua toscana in bocca romana").

> Frank
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