Re: [Ltru] UTF-8
"Reshat Sabiq (Reşat)" <tatar.iqtelif.i18n@gmail.com> Fri, 22 June 2007 17:35 UTC
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Reshat Sabiq (Reşat) yazmış: > Most importantly, if UTF-8 is going to be easier for 95% of mainstream > users, couldn't we tell 5% of peculiar users to deal w/ it? The registry > for the internet should probably be based on up-to-date technologies, > rather than trying to accommodate obsolete ones as well, which i think > are used to rarely to be cared about anyway. I just read the updates thru http, and i agree w/ Randy and Addison's idea of converting escapes to UTF-8 after the email phase. The submitter can always verify the correctness thereof thru http, and object if there are any mistakes. If this is done by a little program, that is written w/ some unit tests, and tested, then errors should be minimal. As far as passivity, if this takes effect w/ the next release of the registry spec, and people know about it in advance, then it's natural for it to not be passive. For temporary passivity, the old registry could continue to exist w/o updates at the existing URL, and the new registry to be updated could be exposed thru a new URL. That happened in java betweem 1.3 and 1.4, and 1.4 and 5: it's inevitable at early stages, and maybe even beyond. Deep down, do we not all know that it will be UTF-8 and XML at some point? I think we do, so passivity question will come up anyway, it's just a matter of managing it well. - -- My public GPG key (ID 0x262839AF) is at: http://keyserver.veridis.com:11371 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.1 (Cygwin) iD8DBQFGfAhjO75ytyYoOa8RAr46AKCS1xewkVIBkDeF2hWnAbr/4IJ5OACglfGh nd9m3loc749N0Pyy0aOWNh4= =t4Pf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
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- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Addison Phillips
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- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Addison Phillips
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- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 John Cowan
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Martin Duerst
- [Ltru] Re: RFC 4646 production "grandfathered" co… Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: RFC 4646 production "grandfathered… John Cowan
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Frank Ellermann
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Martin Duerst
- [Ltru] Re: RFC 4646 production "grandfathered" co… Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Frank Ellermann
- RE: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Martin Duerst
- RE: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Martin Duerst
- RE: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Addison Phillips
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Ltru] UTF-8 Reshat Sabiq (Reşat)
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- Re: [Ltru] UTF-8 John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] UTF-8 Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] UTF-8 Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] UTF-8 Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] UTF-8 Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] UTF-8 Reshat Sabiq (Reşat)
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- Re: [Ltru] UTF-8 Reshat Sabiq (Reşat)