[Ltru] Consensus call: extlang

"Randy Presuhn" <randy_presuhn@mindspring.com> Thu, 22 May 2008 08:26 UTC

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Subject: [Ltru] Consensus call: extlang
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Hi -

As co-chair...

Later in this message I will be asking some questions.  Please
respond to this mailing list so that the co-chairs can decide
what to instruct the editors to do regarding the general disposition
(*not* detailed wordsmithing!) of the extlang question.

Please respond no later than Saturday, May 24th, wherever you are.
Please DO NOT respond to others' responses.
If you feel compelled to include a rationale with your response,
PLEASE keep it down to a single brief sentence, and don't expect
anyone to respond to it.  If you want a conversation, start a
new thread!

We've discussed this quite enough.  About 600 messages have been
posted this month on this list, mostly on this topic.  After wading
through this mass, I'm quite convinced that while further wordsmithing
(of whatever solution we agree to) will be needed, the arguments for
and against each of the approaches were made quite some time ago.
There are conflicting considerations and analyses, and it's clear
to me there's no perfect answer that will make everyone happy.

Q1: The current draft (http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ltru-4646bis-14.txt)
    does away with the "extlang" production. Possible responses: (pick ONE)
        A - I like this.
        B - I can live with this.
        C - I object to this.   

Q2: We could go back to using "extlang" in the grammar, requiring its
    use for representing "encompassed" languages that are being added.
    Possible responses:  (pick ONE)
        A - I would like this.
        B - I could live with this.
        C - I would object to this.

Randy

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