RE: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8
"McDonald, Ira" <imcdonald@sharplabs.com> Fri, 15 September 2006 18:42 UTC
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From: "McDonald, Ira" <imcdonald@sharplabs.com>
To: 'Addison Phillips' <addison@yahoo-inc.com>, Frank Ellermann <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de>
Subject: RE: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:42:07 -0700
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Hi, I support changing to unescaped UTF-8 for the registry (consistent with the IESG policy in BCP 18 / RFC 2277). But I also think Doug has it right that zipped content as MIME attachments would be better, because the various deployed email systems make raw UTF-8 (or any other UTF) totally unreliable. And if we move to XML with IANA concurrence, we'll get UTF-8 anyway. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Blue Roof Music / High North Inc PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 phone: +1-906-494-2434 email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Addison Phillips [mailto:addison@yahoo-inc.com] > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 11:55 AM > To: Frank Ellermann > Cc: ltru@lists.ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 > > > This thread is very amusing, but, I think, not very useful. I > think that > using a widely-recognized, plain-text character encoding (UTF-8: "the > new ASCII") would be a Good Thing. But changing which escape > syntax we > use, especially to use something, um, "unusual" like UTF-1 or BOCU-1, > gives us nothing over using US-ASCII with some escape syntax (such as > our existing NCR format). > > So: > > Is there any support for changing to UTF-8? > > Addison > > Frank Ellermann wrote: > > Doug Ewell wrote: > > > >> I'm not sure why you chose 0x86 as your sequence introducer > > > > Six is the number of trailing octets: 91909F9F9F9F (for John's > > example u+10FFFF). > > > >> you could make each sequence 1 byte shorter by marking the > >> lead or trail byte specially > > > > Yes, but then only 2 octets (80+81) would never occur (instead > > of 11), and lost 9x bytes won't cause an error. UTF-8 has now > > 13 "impossible" octets, and similar features. > > > > -- > Addison Phillips > Globalization Architect -- Yahoo! Inc. > > Internationalization is an architecture. > It is not a feature. > > _______________________________________________ > Ltru mailing list > Ltru@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
- [Ltru] [OT] Re: UTF-8 Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: [OT] Re: UTF-8 Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 McDonald, Ira
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Frank Ellermann
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: DOCTYPE ltru Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Martin Duerst
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Addison Phillips
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Martin Duerst
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Frank Ellermann
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: RFC 4646 production "grandfathered" co… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 John Cowan
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Martin Duerst
- [Ltru] Re: RFC 4646 production "grandfathered" co… Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: RFC 4646 production "grandfathered… John Cowan
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Frank Ellermann
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Martin Duerst
- [Ltru] Re: RFC 4646 production "grandfathered" co… Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Frank Ellermann
- RE: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Martin Duerst
- RE: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Martin Duerst
- RE: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Addison Phillips
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Ltru] UTF-8 Reshat Sabiq (Reşat)
- RE: [Ltru] UTF-8 McDonald, Ira
- [Ltru] UTF-8 Reshat Sabiq (Reşat)
- Re: [Ltru] UTF-8 John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] UTF-8 Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] UTF-8 John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] UTF-8 GerardM
- Re: [Ltru] UTF-8 John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] UTF-8 Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] UTF-8 Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] UTF-8 Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] UTF-8 Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] UTF-8 Reshat Sabiq (Reşat)
- [Ltru] Re: UTF-8 Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] UTF-8 Reshat Sabiq (Reşat)