Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF?
Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org> Wed, 05 December 2007 17:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF?
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Peter Constable wrote: > > I think #3 would be more than just slightly sub-optimal. Many people > would look just at the statement of the ABNF and go away and do things > on that basis. The statement of the ABNF should somehow indicate > clearly that extlang is DEAD, never to be resurrected. > > > > We need to be clear about the decision we’re making: we are deciding > to abandon extlang **permanently**. Removing extlang from the ABNF > will leave something that is more-certainly stable in that particular > regard. Of course, it doesn’t make the ABNF as a whole stable > I went through the draft looking for "stabl", and found it only in relation to validity (including the registry in general) and grandfathered sub tags. I found nothing about the ABNF. Secion 8 of RFC 4646 says: "... in no case is the syntax more permissive and processors based on the ABNF and other provisions of RFC 3066 (such as those described in [XMLSchema]) will be able to process the tags described by this document." I think it would be very helpful (again esp. for outreach to other technologies) to have a statement in the main text about the stability and backwards compatibility of the ABNF. Of course one cannot predict the future of the ABNF, but expressing the intention might help already. Felix _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
- [Ltru] summary of recommendations coming out of t… Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] summary of recommendations coming out … Addison Phillips
- [Ltru] Remove extlang from ABNF? (Was: summary of… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] RE: Remove extlang from ABNF? (Was: summar… Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] RE: Remove extlang from ABNF? (Was: su… Felix Sasaki
- RE: [Ltru] RE: Remove extlang from ABNF? Kent Karlsson
- [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Frank Ellermann
- [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Ira McDonald
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Shawn Steele
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Shawn Steele
- [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Frank Ellermann
- [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Frank Ellermann
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Felix Sasaki
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Ira McDonald
- [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Felix Sasaki
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Felix Sasaki
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Mark Davis
- [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? John Cowan
- [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Felix Sasaki
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Felix Sasaki
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Mark Davis
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Frank Ellermann
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Felix Sasaki
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Felix Sasaki
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Felix Sasaki
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Shawn Steele
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Ira McDonald
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Mark Davis
- [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Martin Duerst
- Re: [Ltru] RE: Remove extlang from ABNF? (Was: su… Martin Duerst
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Shawn Steele
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Marion Gunn