Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: Anomalyinupcomingregistry)
Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> Wed, 15 July 2009 14:19 UTC
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:47:26 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: Anomalyinupcomingregistry)
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Hoi, The "best practice" is limited to a subset what these codes can be used for. Imho defending a practice that will never inherently provide a systematic or comprehensive approach is hard when a replacement with a more systematic and comprehensive approach becomes available. Thanks, GerardM 2009/7/15 Kent Karlsson <kent.karlsson14@comhem.se> > > Den 2009-07-15 09.00, skrev "Debbie Garside" <debbie@ictmarketing.co.uk>: > > > Well for starters, there are separate codes for Catalan and Valencian :-) > > So does BCP 47 (well, nearly): > ca > ca-valencia > > There is nothing in principle hindering a registration of a variant subtag > specifically for "true" Catalan (no value judgement implied). > > > And, I rather like the way ISO 639-6 deals with variants of Chinese. > > 639-3 also deals with "variants" of Chinese (separate languages, really). > How does 639-6 do it differently (apart from using 4-letter codes instead > of > 3-letter codes)? > > > Perhaps you would like to tell me how many of the 7000+ codes of ISO > 639-3 > > will be used. My guess is approximately 2-300 at present but over time > more > > and more. The answer is the same for ISO 639-6. > > > > Essentially, all the reasons for including ISO 639-6 are the same as for > > including ISO 639-3. Unless of course, you think that ISO 639-3 is > perfect > > and defines all languages distinctly and that anything else cannot, is > not, > > and definitely is not a language. Then of course you have to decide that > > BCP 47 will only deal with languages and not dialects. > > BCP 47 does deal with dialects, using variant subtags. However, it is very > very far from systematic or comprehensive. It requires individual > registration of each variant. I would venture to guess that that process > will never result in a systematic or (in some sense) comprehensive set > of variant subtags for dialects. On the other hand, the call for tagging > dialects separately, currently seems fairly small amongst the consumers of > BCP 47, IMHO. > > /kent k > > > Then, and only then, > > may you exclude ISO 639-6. > > > > > > Debbie > > > _______________________________________________ > Ltru mailing list > Ltru@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru >
- [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: Anom… Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 Mark Davis ⌛
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 Mark Davis ⌛
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering (to handle 639-6 or other… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Kent Karlsson
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Gerard Meijssen
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Broome, Karen
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Mark Davis ⌛
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Kent Karlsson
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW:A… Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Mark Davis ⌛
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW:A… Broome, Karen
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW:A… Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (wasFW:An… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW:A… Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Mark Davis ⌛
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Debbie Garside
- [Ltru] Rechartering (in general) Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW:A… Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Mark Davis ⌛
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … CE Whitehead
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Broome, Karen
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW: … Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ltru] rechartering to handle 639-6 (was FW:A… Broome, Karen