Re: [Ltru] Language tags and (localization) processes (Re: draft-davis-t-langtag-ext)

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Hi again.From: cewcathar@hotmail.comTo:; ietf-languages@iana.orgSubject: Language tags and (localization) processes (Re: [Ltru] draft-davis-t-langtag-ext)Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:35:13 -0400> Felix Sasaki felix.sasaki at > Tue Jul 12 09:23:36 CEST 2011>> Language tags so far have described *states*: an object is in a language, a>> script etc. The proposed extension extends languages to described *states*: an object is in a language, a script etc.  >> The proposed extension extends languages to describe the outcome>> of a *process*: objects have been transformed, with a source object as the>> basis for this process. According to the paragraph above, this>> transformation includes also translation.> I do personally agree that it's good to discuss and then document in the draft some of the concerns you have described.  > And yes, translation/transliteration is a process.> . . .> I do think this is briefly mentioned (intro, last paragraph):  > "The usage of this extension is not limited to formal transformations,
  > and may include other instances where the content is in some other
  > way influenced by the source.  For example, this extension could be
  >  used to designate a request for a speech recognizer that is tailored
  > specifically for 2nd-language speakers who are 1st-language speakers
  > of a particular language (e.g. a recognizer for "English spoken with
  > a Chinese accent").">  Maybe there could be very brief info (in the intro or where the M0 part of the extension is discussed) on the methods/mechanism used in transcription, why they are relevant to indicate, a sentence or something?Actually you have brought this up sufficiently for me in section 2.5:       "A language tag with the t extension MAY be used to request a specific   transform of content.  In such a case, the recipient SHOULD return
   content that corresponds as closely as feasible to the requested
   transform, including the specification of the mechanism.  For
   example, if the request is ja-t-it-m0-xxx-v21a-2007, and the
   recipient has content corresponding to both ja-t-it-m0-xxx-v21a-2007
   and ja-t-it-m0-xxx-v21a-2009, then the 2007 version would be
   preferred.  As is the case for language matching as discussed in
   [BCP47], different implementations MAY have different measures of
   "closeness"."Best,--C. E.