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Re: [Lurk] [TLS] WG Call for adoption of draft-rescorla-tls-subcerts

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Tue, 18 July 2017 12:47 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>, Nick Sullivan <nicholas.sullivan@gmail.com>, Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com>, "<tls@ietf.org>" <tls@ietf.org>
CC: "lurk@ietf.org" <lurk@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [TLS] WG Call for adoption of draft-rescorla-tls-subcerts
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Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 12:47:21 +0000
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Subject: Re: [Lurk] [TLS] WG Call for adoption of draft-rescorla-tls-subcerts
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> > Con short-lived certs:
> > - Potentially problematic to the CT ecosystem (all certificates must be
> logged in CT, which may bloat them).
> 
> That's a browser policy, not an IETF requirement, right?

And to be even more pedantic, it's the possible-future policy of Chrome, but not yet required nor implemented

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