Re: [Madinas] MADINAS - Proposed Charter v2

Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com> Tue, 25 May 2021 15:50 UTC

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On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 1:34 PM Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 12:04 PM Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
> ...
>
>> Device identity is important in scenarios where the network needs to know
>>> the device or user identity in order to offer, operate and maintain certain
>>> services. Currently, many use cases and applications make an implicit
>>> assumption about the unique association between the device identity and its
>>> MAC address. This assumption is being used in both control plane and data
>>> plane functions and protocols. RCM will break this assumption. This
>>> requires update of the current applications to function across MAC address
>>> changes.
>>>
>>> The MADINAS Working Group will examine the effect of RCM schemes on
>>> network and application services in several scenarios identified as
>>> relevant. The group will also evaluate various identifiers (beyond the MAC
>>> address) that can be used by the network to provide services, as well as
>>> scenarios where personal device identity is not required.
>>>
>>> For scenarios where personal device identity stability is desirable, the
>>> Working Group will recommend protocols that can be used to protect the request
>>> and exchange of identifiers between the client and the service
>>> provider. For scenarios where privacy is paramount, the group will
>>> recommend best practices to ensure that the privacy achieved with RCM is
>>> not compromised by the communication of other identifiers. The MADINAS
>>> Working Group will examine other IETF work that may be applicable.
>>>
>>> The Working Group will work together with other IETF WGs (e.g., DHC,
>>> IntArea),
>>>
>>
>> I thought DHC WG is closed?
>>
>
> DHC is still an active WG: https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/dhc/about/
>
>
Yeah but they have not met since IETF 106.

Having said that I would have appreciated a reply from JC.

Behcet

> Thanks,
> Donald
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> Behcet
>>
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