[Madinas] questions on draft-henry-madinas-framework

Joey S <joeysalazar@article19.org> Thu, 02 December 2021 17:09 UTC

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Subject: [Madinas] questions on draft-henry-madinas-framework
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Hi Madinas,

Following up on the IETF 111 session, I would like to request clarification on 2 points regarding 'REQ8  Identify a secure mechanism for the device to notify the network prior to update the MAC address' prior to supporting adoption of draft-henry-madinas-framework;
  • what are the expected constrains of such mechanism?
  • what is its expected use?
    • Is there a risk for this mechanism to become a means for flagging a device using randomized MACs and/or for it to turn into a new type of UUID?

Additionally, reiterating from the 11 session discussion, I oppose the text

    'All devices in the home network trust each other.  Privacy within the
   Layer 2 domain is not a major concern.'

and look forward to the upcoming changes on the 'Trust Degree' mapping.

Thank you,

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Joey Salazar