Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver
"Allyn Romanow (allyn)" <allyn@cisco.com> Fri, 03 December 2010 22:45 UTC
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Hi Peter, I agree with Marshall's later comment that "we have to accommodate both models". It seems to me that different systems may work differently - some may use a subscription model, others can have it pre-set that either the sender (including MCU), or receiver (as in current Cisco system) may decide how to do the layout. In the primary spec that we are developing, we just need to be able to give coherent information for whichever implementation policy is being followed. So, we have to check that our descriptive model works for different implementation methods. The second aspect of the charter is to see what extensions in our protocols may be necessary to be able to carry out one or another policy. But for the spec that we are doing to describe the relationships between multiple streams so that they can be reasonably rendered, I think we need to have that description work for any of the composition models (meaning sender composed or receiver composed). What do you think? Allyn ---------- From: Peter Musgrave <peter.musgrave@magorcorp.com> Date: Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:02 PM To: "Mike Hammer (hmmr)" <hmmr@cisco.com> Cc: maitai@ietf.org I think this is actually a different, very interesting issue. This speaks to control DURING the call and the need for that to be dynamic. I completely agree - but as understand the charter it's out of scope...although I think it is inevitable that we will need to look at what exists (BFCP, conference event etc.) and determine if it can be used or start to define something new. This might be subverted by sending all and letting the receiver take them on and off hold quickly...clunky but avoid protocol work. My specific question relates to the initial setup where I have two 3 display, 3 camera systems from different vendors. Who decides which stream goes where? Sender or receiver? Peter ----------
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