Re: [manet-dlep-rg] London meet up?
Henning Rogge <hrogge@gmail.com> Wed, 05 March 2014 20:22 UTC
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From: Henning Rogge <hrogge@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 20:21:44 +0000
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Subject: Re: [manet-dlep-rg] London meet up?
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I wonder if we could allow a MAC address data TLV in the multicast discovery peer offer. It would solve a lot of headaches with DLEP Wifi radios in Adhoc mode. Henning On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Stan Ratliff (sratliff) <sratliff@cisco.com> wrote: > Henning, > > That's true. The data items would be in the "Peer Offer" response to the > Multicasted Discovery. Those data items (IP address and Port) will have to > move to the discovery message. Also, any a-priori configuration will need to > be implemented in the router instead of the modem, but that's really an > "implementation detail". > > Regards, > Stan > On Mar 5, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Henning Rogge <hrogge@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I just looked it up, we have no data items in the UDP discovery broadcast at > all at the moment. > > Henning > > On Mar 5, 2014 5:36 PM, "Rick Taylor" <rick@tropicalstormsoftware.com> > wrote: >> >> Hi Guys, >> >> Thank you all very much for a very productive meeting this afternoon. I >> include a write up of my notes, please correct me if I have missed anything >> pertinent. >> >> Stan has committed to updating the session initiation description to place >> the TCP server in the modem, so the initial part of the protocol is: Modem >> broadcasts UDP Hello packets containing version, ident and TCP address/port. >> Router TCP connects, session initiation occurs via the new TCP connection. >> >> Credit windowing will stay in the document, but will be clearly marked as >> an optional part of the protocol. There was some concern raised over the >> clarity of the current text which will need to be address before last call. >> >> Vendor extensions will be defined using a new Data Item, containing a OUI >> (or something from an existing registry) and space for a payload. There >> will need to be some guidance verbiage to characterise what is a valid >> vendor extension and what is not. >> >> There was clarification of what both ends of a DLEP session must do on >> reciept of an unrecognized signal and data item. For a data item, the >> receiver MUST ignore the data item, for a signal the recipient MUST send an >> error status signal and terminate the TCP connection. >> >> There will be no facility in DLEP v1 for vendor extended signals. Any >> extra signals will require an uplift of the verion of the protocol and >> require a new draft. >> >> There will be no such thing as a Peer Characteristic Request. This will >> prevent abuse and misuse of the DLEP protocol to act as a configuration >> mechanism. >> >> There was further discussion concerning multiple QoS flows with seperate >> metrics across a single link. This was agreed to be pushed out to another >> draft after DLEP v1, after some analysis that the proposed approach >> (heirachial data items) will not break existing DLEP v1 implementations. >> Stan agreed to double check that the text specified 16bit length values for >> all TLVs (data and signals). >> >> There was discussion about enumerating error codes, and potential error >> text. The status signal MUST include an error code, 0 being success, others >> to be enumerated after close analysis of the protocol, plus and optional >> free text field to carry loggable information, capped at 80 bytes, utf8 >> encoded. >> >> There was discussion of confidence values for metrics, and this was >> rejected as a core DLEP mechanism, and the suggestion was to use an >> extension data item TLV instead. >> >> In light of achieveing their goal of listing the outstanding points that >> needed to be reolved before DLEP can make progress to WG last-call, and >> actually achieving suitable consensus to resolve the outstanding issues to >> the satisafaction of one of the authors present, the DT decided to not apply >> for a continuation of their charter, and to instead announce "Mission >> Complete" >> >> Cheers, >> >> Rick Taylor >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> manet-dlep-rg mailing list >> manet-dlep-rg@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dlep-rg > > _______________________________________________ > manet-dlep-rg mailing list > manet-dlep-rg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dlep-rg > >
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