Re: [manet-dlep-rg] London meet up?

"Stan Ratliff (sratliff)" <sratliff@cisco.com> Wed, 05 March 2014 21:32 UTC

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From: "Stan Ratliff (sratliff)" <sratliff@cisco.com>
To: Henning Rogge <hrogge@gmail.com>
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On Mar 5, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Henning Rogge <hrogge@gmail.com>; wrote:

> I am just not sure I can change a MAC address of an interface without
> breaking a running TCP session on it.

That's an interesting question. Since you've got a setup already in mind, can I ask you to try it? With the notion of layer independence, it just might work. I know you can't change an IP address on a running TCP session, but I could actually see no one caring about the MAC address(es).

Regards,
Stan

> 
> Henning
> 
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Stan Ratliff (sratliff)
> <sratliff@cisco.com>; wrote:
>> Not from what I've seen.... not in industry. Or in military developments.
>> 
>> Oh, another issue - if I understood you correctly, the MAC that you propose putting into the discovery packet would then be "assumed" by the receiving router? If that's right, wouldn't DLEP become something of a "DHCP for MAC addresses"? This looks really, really wrong to me.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Stan
>> 
>> On Mar 5, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Henning Rogge <hrogge@gmail.com>;
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Stan Ratliff (sratliff)
>>> <sratliff@cisco.com>; wrote:
>>>> OK, this is IMO, but...
>>>> 
>>>> That is pretty much a one-off, for a research or lab-type effort. As a professor of mine in college used to say, "No one in their right mind will ever use 802.11 adhoc for anything more than a development/research platform". I just don't see bending the protocol to put this in for no more use than we'll get out of it.
>>> 
>>> I think MOST wifi based MANETs use adhoc mode, so this is not a
>>> special research/lab usecase.
>>> 
>>> Thats the default use case for a MANET.
>>> 
>>> Henning Rogge
>> 
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