Re: [manet-dlep-rg] London meet up?
"Stan Ratliff (sratliff)" <sratliff@cisco.com> Wed, 05 March 2014 20:59 UTC
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From: "Stan Ratliff (sratliff)" <sratliff@cisco.com>
To: Henning Rogge <hrogge@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [manet-dlep-rg] London meet up?
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What would that MAC address be used for? I don't understand. Stan On Mar 5, 2014, at 3:21 PM, Henning Rogge <hrogge@gmail.com> wrote: > I wonder if we could allow a MAC address data TLV in the multicast > discovery peer offer. > > It would solve a lot of headaches with DLEP Wifi radios in Adhoc mode. > > Henning > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Stan Ratliff (sratliff) > <sratliff@cisco.com> wrote: >> Henning, >> >> That's true. The data items would be in the "Peer Offer" response to the >> Multicasted Discovery. Those data items (IP address and Port) will have to >> move to the discovery message. Also, any a-priori configuration will need to >> be implemented in the router instead of the modem, but that's really an >> "implementation detail". >> >> Regards, >> Stan >> On Mar 5, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Henning Rogge <hrogge@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> I just looked it up, we have no data items in the UDP discovery broadcast at >> all at the moment. >> >> Henning >> >> On Mar 5, 2014 5:36 PM, "Rick Taylor" <rick@tropicalstormsoftware.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Guys, >>> >>> Thank you all very much for a very productive meeting this afternoon. I >>> include a write up of my notes, please correct me if I have missed anything >>> pertinent. >>> >>> Stan has committed to updating the session initiation description to place >>> the TCP server in the modem, so the initial part of the protocol is: Modem >>> broadcasts UDP Hello packets containing version, ident and TCP address/port. >>> Router TCP connects, session initiation occurs via the new TCP connection. >>> >>> Credit windowing will stay in the document, but will be clearly marked as >>> an optional part of the protocol. There was some concern raised over the >>> clarity of the current text which will need to be address before last call. >>> >>> Vendor extensions will be defined using a new Data Item, containing a OUI >>> (or something from an existing registry) and space for a payload. There >>> will need to be some guidance verbiage to characterise what is a valid >>> vendor extension and what is not. >>> >>> There was clarification of what both ends of a DLEP session must do on >>> reciept of an unrecognized signal and data item. For a data item, the >>> receiver MUST ignore the data item, for a signal the recipient MUST send an >>> error status signal and terminate the TCP connection. >>> >>> There will be no facility in DLEP v1 for vendor extended signals. Any >>> extra signals will require an uplift of the verion of the protocol and >>> require a new draft. >>> >>> There will be no such thing as a Peer Characteristic Request. This will >>> prevent abuse and misuse of the DLEP protocol to act as a configuration >>> mechanism. >>> >>> There was further discussion concerning multiple QoS flows with seperate >>> metrics across a single link. This was agreed to be pushed out to another >>> draft after DLEP v1, after some analysis that the proposed approach >>> (heirachial data items) will not break existing DLEP v1 implementations. >>> Stan agreed to double check that the text specified 16bit length values for >>> all TLVs (data and signals). >>> >>> There was discussion about enumerating error codes, and potential error >>> text. The status signal MUST include an error code, 0 being success, others >>> to be enumerated after close analysis of the protocol, plus and optional >>> free text field to carry loggable information, capped at 80 bytes, utf8 >>> encoded. >>> >>> There was discussion of confidence values for metrics, and this was >>> rejected as a core DLEP mechanism, and the suggestion was to use an >>> extension data item TLV instead. >>> >>> In light of achieveing their goal of listing the outstanding points that >>> needed to be reolved before DLEP can make progress to WG last-call, and >>> actually achieving suitable consensus to resolve the outstanding issues to >>> the satisafaction of one of the authors present, the DT decided to not apply >>> for a continuation of their charter, and to instead announce "Mission >>> Complete" >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Rick Taylor >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> manet-dlep-rg mailing list >>> manet-dlep-rg@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dlep-rg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> manet-dlep-rg mailing list >> manet-dlep-rg@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dlep-rg >> >>
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