[Manet-dt] RE: [manet] DYMO and other routing protocols
"Joe Macker" <joseph.macker@nrl.navy.mil> Tue, 12 June 2007 20:16 UTC
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From: Joe Macker <joseph.macker@nrl.navy.mil>
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Subject: [Manet-dt] RE: [manet] DYMO and other routing protocols
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Right, an early paper 2001 Mobihoc by the same authors introduced a general class term called fuzzy sighted link state(FSLS). For experimentation we built a version of this into an early OLSR implementation at NRL. http://cs.itd.nrl.navy.mil/pubs/docs/ls_scaling_milcom03.pdf In the previous paper, we were able to use an OLSR implementation to compare fuzzy-sighted link state (FSLS), FSLS+MPR, MPR, and classical flooding for LS flooding. This analysis only did overhead scaling comparison, but it demonstrated some of the tradeoffs with density and diameter taken into account the design from the initial paper in combination with a working MANET protocol. As Phillile mentions others have done fisheye work as well. You do require longer term global state flooding so for long period fragmentations/changes there are some resynch/delay issues since less localized entries state will time out eventually. However such changes may trigger more reactive route learning as a possible solution. -Joe >-----Original Message----- >From: David Young [mailto:dyoung@pobox.com] >Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:55 PM >To: manet@ietf.org; manet-dt@ietf.org >Subject: Re: [manet] DYMO and other routing protocols > >On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 08:54:00AM -0400, Herbert Rubens wrote: >> It appears that when a link fails on an active >link-state path, you >> technically can't be routing reliably without a flood >propagating the >> entire network. > >As a practical matter, you do not ordinarily need to flood the >entire network following a change of linkstate. You do need >to flood the region a few hops in diameter where most loops >occur. See ><http://www.ir.bbn.com/documents/techmemos/TM1301.pdf> for a >discussion. > >Dave > >-- >David Young OJC Technologies >dyoung@ojctech.com Urbana, IL * (217) 278-3933 ext 24 > > >_______________________________________________ >manet mailing list >manet@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > _______________________________________________ Manet-dt mailing list Manet-dt@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt
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