Re: [Manet-dt] Revivied discussion on MANET multicast addresses
"Charles E. Perkins" <charliep@iprg.nokia.com> Sat, 20 May 2006 23:06 UTC
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Hello Ian, We had this discussion before. As I remember, without checking old e-mails, the result was that each routing protocol would get its own multicast address. It is O.K. with me to use the same multicast address for all manet routing protocols and demultiplex based on port number. I am O.K. either way. Things get a little bit more complicated when there are considerations about restricting flooding to backbone nodes only, but still with a requirement for backwards compatibility with all nodes. I went through a very thorough analysis about how to do this and came to the conclusion the compatibility is possible, and that it would be nice to have a multicast address for the use by the backbone nodes. This was in an old Smurf draft, I think. It needs to be revised... Regards, Charlie P. Ian Chakeres wrote: > I think one well-known address would be useful for routing and other > MANET protocols (autoconf). > > I agree a set of addresses would be useful as well. > > Anyone else? > > Ian > > On 5/19/06, Joe Macker <joseph.macker@nrl.navy.mil> wrote: > >> Well since we put such a notion in the SMF draft I am a fan. >> I don't believe it needs to be one address. It could be a range of >> administratively scoped addresses. >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Ian Chakeres [mailto:ian.chakeres@gmail.com] >> >Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 8:12 PM >> >To: Templin, Fred L >> >Cc: manet-dt@ietf.org >> >Subject: Re: [Manet-dt] Revivied discussion on MANET multicast >> >addresses >> > >> >How do people feel about defining one "site" scoped multicast >> >for manet protocols? Please write with support or dissent. >> > >> >I think the semantics for these multicast messages would be >> >that MANET routers must not forwarded these packets out >> >non-manet interfaces. >> > >> >Ian >> > >> >On 5/16/06, Templin, Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> wrote: >> >> > Unfortunately, things don't seem quite so clear-cut in IPv4. >> >> >> >> Then again, there is the IPv4 "Administratively Scoped" >> >> multicast block (239.0.0.0/8) and portions of that space are >> >> designated as "Site-Local Scope"; see RFC2365 and: >> >> >> >> http://www.iana.org/assignments/multicast-addresses >> >> >> >> Fred >> >> fred.l.templin@boeing.com >> >> >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Manet-dt mailing list >> >Manet-dt@ietf.org >> >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt >> > >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Manet-dt mailing list > Manet-dt@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt _______________________________________________ Manet-dt mailing list Manet-dt@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt
- [Manet-dt] Revivied discussion on MANET multicast… Ian Chakeres
- RE: [Manet-dt] Revivied discussion on MANET multi… Templin, Fred L
- RE: [Manet-dt] Revivied discussion on MANET multi… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Manet-dt] Revivied discussion on MANET multi… Ian Chakeres
- RE: [Manet-dt] Revivied discussion on MANET multi… Joe Macker
- Re: [Manet-dt] Revivied discussion on MANET multi… Maoyu Wang
- Re: [Manet-dt] Revivied discussion on MANET multi… Ian Chakeres
- Re: [Manet-dt] Revivied discussion on MANET multi… Charles E. Perkins
- RE: [Manet-dt] Revivied discussion on MANET multi… Joe Macker