Re: [Manet-dt] RE: Minor MANET Generic Message Format Comments

"Ian Chakeres" <ian.chakeres@gmail.com> Mon, 03 April 2006 19:56 UTC

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From: "Ian Chakeres" <ian.chakeres@gmail.com>
To: "Dearlove, Christopher (UK)" <chris.dearlove@baesystems.com>
Subject: Re: [Manet-dt] RE: Minor MANET Generic Message Format Comments
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Just chiming in.

#1) Chris (and others), how about switching the bits (bit0 and bit1)
then the fields stay in the same place and I think everyone is happy.

Ian

On 3/28/06, Dearlove, Christopher (UK) <chris.dearlove@baesystems.com> wrote:
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> With regard to these points
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> 1 - I think I'd rather keep OLSRv1 compatibility.
> 2 - On balance is probably a good idea, but I'm open to either way. However if we are going
>      to change I'd like to make the decision as soon as possible (code depends on it).
> 3 - I beat Brian to this one (both parts) - see bugtracker (where I also had other ideas I
>     think we won't do). But generally my comments are  as 2, i.e. can live with decision
>     either way as long as quickly. Note that <tail>+ should probably be <tail>* as we
>     have no tails if <head-length> is maximal. (It's even possible in this case for the
>     number of addresses to be >1, provided they have different netmask lengths.)
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> Thomas, Justin?
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  From: Brian Adamson [mailto:adamson@itd.nrl.navy.mil]
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> To: Thomas Heide Clausen; Dearlove, Christopher (UK); Joe Macker; jdean@itd.nrl.navy.mil
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> Subject: Minor MANET Generic Message Format Comments
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> We discussed some of these at the working group meeting.
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> 1)  For <msg-header-info>, it seems the order of the fields should be:
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> <originator-address>
> <msg-seq-number>
> <ttl>
> <hop-count>
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> since the presence of <originator-address>/<msg-seq-number> are commonly determined by bit0 of <msg-semantics>  _and_ the presence of <ttl>/<hop-count> are commonly determined by bit1 of <msg_semantics>
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> This makes for more logical message building ...
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> (BUT, I understand a "backwards compatibility with OLSRv1" issue here may need to take precedence over this nit-pick?)
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> Also here, with regards to <ttl> and <hop-count> as discussed, <ttl> might be better renamed <hop-limit> ... Also if <hop-count> is an accumulated count of hops traversed, would it be possible to then leave <hop-limit> fixed (don't decrement) and stop forwarding when incremented <hop-count> > <hop-limit> ...
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> Or ... should we leave the use of these fields open in message format document as perhaps suggested.
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> 2) Similarly, for <tlv>, it seems the field order should be:
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> <type>
> <tlv-semantics>
> <index-start>
> <index-stop>
> <length>
> <value>
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> The reason for this is that in constructing a TLV, particularly a multi-value TLV it would seem that the choice as to whether (noindex) is set could be made ahead of setting TLV values and that <length> could be updated as multiple tlv's are added ...
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> And also, this seems more logical since <length> does _not_ include the <index-start> and <index-stop> content, but is the length of the <value> field that follows ...
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> 3) In the <addr-block>, it also seems cleaner to have <num-tails> precede <head>, and hey, why not call it <num-addrs> since that is what it is?  So the new suggested format would be:
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> <address-block> = <num-addrs>
>                   <head-length>
>                   <head>
>                   <tail>+
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> Brian
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