Re: [manet] ordered data items in DLEP pause extension
Rick Taylor <rick@tropicalstormsoftware.com> Wed, 13 June 2018 09:22 UTC
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From: Rick Taylor <rick@tropicalstormsoftware.com>
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Subject: Re: [manet] ordered data items in DLEP pause extension
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Hi All, +1 on keeping data items unordered. We worked hard on core DLEP to ensure that there was no ordering constraint, and it would be a pity to introduce it in an extension. Cheers, Rick On Tue, 2018-06-12 at 17:52 -0400, Lou Berger wrote: > Hi, > > David and I discussed this - as I didn't feel strongly about this > and > his comment was based on actual implementation experience, we've put > together a version that addresses his comment. We also clarified > the > sub data type field definition as it was somewhat under defined in > the > previous version (I views this to be not a technical change, but > rather > an editorial clarification) . > > The changes are: > 1) make the Queue Parameter Sub Data Item unordered by adding a > Queue Index field to the sub-DI > 2) formally define Sub Data Item Type, the value (of 1) is not > changed. > > The detailed diff can be seen at: > https://github.com/louberger/dlep-extensions/compare/working/lb/rev-0 > 3-comments > and full text can be seen at: > https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/cgi-bin/xml2rfc.cgi?url=https://raw.gi > thubusercontent.com/louberger/dlep-extensions/master/pause/draft- > ietf-manet-dlep-pause-extension.xml > > *No that this document is post LC* > > Does anyone object to this change? > > Chairs, > Please let us know if / when we should submit this rev. > > Thank you, > Lou (and David) > > PS we'll update the flow control document to have the same > clarification > (#2 above) once we publish this change. > > On 6/11/2018 12:56 PM, Wiggins, David - 0665 - MITLL wrote: > > > > In draft-ietf-manet-dlep-pause-extension-03, section 3.1.1 says > > “Queue > > Parameter Sub Data Items are an ordered list composed of sub data > > items with a common format. The first sub data item is assigned > > a > > Queue Index value of 1, and subsequent data items are numbered > > incrementally.” > > > > I’d rather not allow the order of data items, even though they are > > sub > > data items, to convey any meaning. It isn’t done anywhere else in > > DLEP (as far as I know), and I think that’s a good thing. It > > allows a > > wider variety of implementations. I believe this is easily fixed > > by > > adding a queue index field to the Queue Parameter Sub Data Item > > and > > adjusting the above-quoted sentences. > > > > David > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > manet mailing list > > manet@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet
- Re: [manet] ordered data items in DLEP pause exte… Lou Berger
- Re: [manet] ordered data items in DLEP pause exte… Ratliff, Stanley
- Re: [manet] ordered data items in DLEP pause exte… Rick Taylor
- [manet] ordered data items in DLEP pause extension Wiggins, David - 0665 - MITLL
- Re: [manet] ordered data items in DLEP pause exte… Lou Berger