Re: [manet] OLSR and willingness [was: What was...]

Christopher Dearlove <christopher.dearlove@gmail.com> Wed, 18 October 2023 10:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [manet] OLSR and willingness [was: What was...]
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Paths are defined by MPRs, and it affects MPR choice. So it’s a blunt instrument, not a rapier.

> On 18 Oct 2023, at 10:43, Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> It was there in OLSRv2 as well. The main change in OLSRv2 in this regard
>> was splitting routing and flooding willingnesses. (Also using 4 bit
>> rather than 3 bit values.)
> 
> Are you saying that OLSRv1 willingness influences the choice of paths, and
> not only the choice of MPRs?  Because I don't see it stated in RFC 3626,
> but perhaps I'm not looking at the right place.
> 
> -- Juliusz