Re: [manet] Last call ending
Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Mon, 29 January 2018 21:39 UTC
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From: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>
To: "Wiggins, David - 0665 - MITLL" <David.Wiggins@ll.mit.edu>, Justin Dean <bebemaster@gmail.com>, MANET IETF <manet@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [manet] Last call ending
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FYI - I just pushed an updated - David noticed some vestigial (and now illegal) case being described - I removed the paragraph and pushed the change... Lou On 01/29/2018 01:36 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > ... > David, (all) > I think I've addressed all comments in the latest push to the repo. I'm > enclosing below a specific diff of the commit that addresses your > comments, please take a look and let me know if you see any issues > remaining. > > Note I have clarified processing when hop control is in a > characteristics change message and changed/simplified in the Session > request massage case - to improve processing consistency as you > requested. Please see the specific changes below and let me know what > you think. > > I also have one comment in response to your comment below. > > On 01/29/2018 09:36 AM, Wiggins, David - 0665 - MITLL wrote: >> > That’s why I was suggesting a radically different mechanism for >> the router > to express its wishes, e.g., by ordering the >> destinations in terms of > importance, and letting the modem work >> that information into its topology > control scheme however it >> can. The router’s most important destination may > be best >> reached over a 3-hop link. >> > >> To me this is a different extension with different objectives. >> I certainly would be interested in reading that extension. >> >> It has very similar objectives to the Direct Connection/Terminate part >> of this extension, but I agree that it doesn’t fit well in this >> extension. > > I think an extension that does this as well as let's a router understand > some of the resource impacts of a manet topology (with out exposing the > full topology ala ospf/isis-te) would be very interesting. I actually > had some related discussion on this in singapore. If you have a > proposal on this or are interested in collaborating on such, I'm very > interested in this! > > Thanks, > > Lou > > Changes from: > https://github.com/louberger/dlep-extensions/commit/100217f5a8a3e35c6608b4a88428b20b14854f8f > > commit 100217f5a8a3e35c6608b4a88428b20b14854f8f > Author: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> > Date: Mon Jan 29 13:20:09 2018 -0500 > > Multi-hop: Address remainder of Dave W. comments > - Clean up Hop Behavior processing. > Send only one message when link characteristic change results in > a change/unreachable requested destination > Destination impact due to Hop Control Data Item in a Session > Update Message always provided via a Destination Down or > Destination Update Message. > > diff --git a/multi-hop/draft-ietf-manet-dlep-multi-hop-extension.xml > b/multi-hop/draft-ietf-manet-dlep-multi-hop-extension.xml > index 5fc2845..f81e3be 100644 > --- a/multi-hop/draft-ietf-manet-dlep-multi-hop-extension.xml > +++ b/multi-hop/draft-ietf-manet-dlep-multi-hop-extension.xml > @@ -110,7 +110,8 @@ > words, each hop represents a transmission and the number of hops is > equal to the number of transmissions required to go from a router > connected modem to the destination's connected modem. The minimum > - number of hops is 1, which represents the transmission by the router's > + number of hops is 1, which represents transmission to destinations > + that are directly reachable via the router's > locally connected > modem. > </t> > @@ -176,7 +177,7 @@ > A value of zero (0) is used to indicated that processing of a Hop > Control action, see <xref target="sec-di-hcontrol"/>, has resulted > in a destination no longer being reachable. A zero value MUST NOT > - be used in any message other then a Destination Announce Response > + be used in any message other then a Link Characteristics Response > Message. > </t> > </list> > @@ -189,7 +190,8 @@ > connectivity to a particular destination, or in multi-hop processing > on a device wide basis. A router can request multi-hop reachable > destination be changed to a single hop. A router can also indicate > - that the modem terminate connectivity to a particular destination. > + that the modem terminates a previous direct connectivity request to a > + particular destination. > </t> > <t> > The Hop Control Data Item MAY be carried in a Session Update Message > @@ -218,20 +220,19 @@ > notify the router of each destination that is no longer reachable via > a Destination Down Message. The modem MUST notify the router of any > changes in Hop Counts via Destination Update Messages. Note that > - normal DLEP processing is not otherwise modified by this document, this > - includes the generation of Destination Down messages. > + neither Destination Down or Update Message SHOULD NOT be sent for the > + destination MAC address contained in the Link Characteristics > + Response Message. > </t> > <t> > A modem that receives the Hop Control Data Item in > a Session Update Message > SHOULD attempt to make the change indicated by the data item > - for the associated destination MAC address, when carried in a Link > - Characteristics Request Message, or all destinations, when carried in > - a Session Update Message. Once the change is made, > - or fails or is rejected, the modem MUST respond with a Link > Characteristics > - Request Message containing an updated Hop Count Data Item. Note that > - other destinations can be impacted as a result of the change and such > - changes are reported in > + for all known destinations. Once the change is made, or fails or is > + rejected, the modem MUST respond with a Session Update Response > + Message with an appropriate Status Code. Destination specific > + impact resulting from the processing of a Hop Control Data Item in a > + Session Update Message is provided via > Destination Down and Destination Update Messages. The modem MUST > notify the router of each destination that is no longer reachable via > a Destination Down Message. The modem MUST notify the router of any > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet
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- Re: [manet] Last call ending Wiggins, David - 0665 - MITLL
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- Re: [manet] Last call ending Wiggins, David - 0665 - MITLL
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- Re: [manet] Last call ending Wiggins, David - 0665 - MITLL
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- Re: [manet] Last call ending Stan Ratliff
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