Re: [manet] AD Review of draft-ietf-manet-dlep-multi-hop-extension-05

Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Fri, 15 March 2019 18:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: [manet] AD Review of draft-ietf-manet-dlep-multi-hop-extension-05
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thanks!

On 3/15/2019 1:11 PM, Velt, R. (Ronald) in 't wrote:
> Lou,
>
> Another nit, see below.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: manet <manet-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Lou Berger
>> Sent: vrijdag 15 maart 2019 17:10
>> To: Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com>; draft-ietf-manet-dlep-multi-
>> hop-extension@ietf.org
>> Cc: manet@ietf.org; Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Working Group <manet-
>> chairs@ietf.org>
>> Subject: Re: [manet] AD Review of draft-ietf-manet-dlep-multi-hop-
>> extension-05
>>
>>
>> On 3/15/2019 11:47 AM, Alvaro Retana wrote:
>>> On March 8, 2019 at 9:54:24 AM, Lou Berger (lberger@labn.net
>>> <mailto:lberger@labn.net>) wrote:
>>>
>>> Lou:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Thanks for getting this done.
>>>
>>> I have a couple of nits below — and will also send a reply to your
>>> exchange with Justin.   I’ll start the IETF LC in a couple of minutes.
>>>
>>> Alvaro.
>>>
>>>
>>> ...
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> 72 1. Introduction
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> 80 Some modem technologies support connectivity to destinations
>>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>> 81 multi-hop forwarding.  DLEP Destination messages can be used
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> 82 report such connectivity, see [RFC8175], but do not provide
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> 83 information related to the number or capacity of the hops. The
>>>>>>>> 84 extension defined in this document enables modems to inform
>>>>>>>> routers
>>>>>>>> 85 when multi-hop forwarding is being used, and routers to
>>>>>>>> request that
>>>>>>>> 86 modems change multi-hop forwarding behavior.  The extension
>>>>>>>> defined
>>>>>>>> 87 in this document is referred to as "Multi-Hop Forwarding".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [major] Please define "multi-hop forwarding" in the context of
>>>>>>>> the modems.
>>>> Done, please see the changes at the repo posted above and let me know
>>>> if the changes are sufficient.
>>> Yes, I think that’s fine.  Just a nit: there’s some orphaned text
>>> (“example using”) left in the new text.
>>>
>>>
>> woops - thanks.
>>> ...
>>>>>>>> 166   Reserved:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 168      MUST be set to zero by the sender (a modem) and ignored
>>>>>>>> by the
>>>>>>>> 169      receiver (a router).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [major] I think that a registry for these bits is needed.
>>>>>>>> Otherwise anyone can use them...
>>>> My inclination would be to establish a registry on the second usage
>>>> of the reserved field.  Right now I don't see additional uses and it
>>>> seems like a lot of unneeded overhead at this point.  Of course,
>>>> you're the AD so your view counts for more ;-)
>>> …but you still didn’t define the registry. :-(
>>>
>>> Seriously:  it’s ok.  I trust that the next user will do the right thing.
>>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> I've pushed your and some other nit changes to the repo, but don't think
>> they need hold anything.
> ... and then there is a then that should be a than 😉 (line 191 in the latest repo version: "any messages other THAN a Link Characteristics Response Message.")
>
> Thanks,
> Ronald
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Lou
>>
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