Re: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group documents

"Cheng, Bow-Nan - 0665 - MITLL" <bcheng@ll.mit.edu> Mon, 28 November 2016 19:47 UTC

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From: "Cheng, Bow-Nan - 0665 - MITLL" <bcheng@ll.mit.edu>
To: "Ratliff, Stanley" <sratliff@idirect.net>, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>, Rick Taylor <rick@tropicalstormsoftware.com>, "Wiggins, David - 0665 - MITLL" <David.Wiggins@ll.mit.edu>, "ratliffstan@gmail.com" <ratliffstan@gmail.com>, "manet@ietf.org" <manet@ietf.org>
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No IPR issues on the MITLL side of the house.



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On 11/28/16, 1:56 PM, "manet on behalf of Ratliff, Stanley"
<manet-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of sratliff@idirect.net> wrote:

>Lou, 
>
>Thanks for reminding me on the potential IPR issues. Just to make sure
>that base is completely covered, can I please hear from the other
>co-authors on the extensions as to any IPR claims that might exist?
>
>Regards,
>Stan
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: manet [mailto:manet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger
>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 1:17 PM
>> To: Rick Taylor <rick@tropicalstormsoftware.com>;
>> David.Wiggins@ll.mit.edu; ratliffstan@gmail.com; manet@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group documents
>> 
>> I support adoption (no surprise, I'm a contributor to all).
>> 
>> I'm fine with adopting then doing the changes or doing the restructuring
>> (queue parameters in own doc, merge credit extensions) then adopting -
>>is
>> the chair's call.
>> 
>> Lou
>> 
>> PS I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to these documents.
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/28/2016 12:29 PM, Rick Taylor wrote:
>> > Stan, All,
>> >
>> > I seem to remember there was some discussion over whether the
>> > documents should be accepted as WG documents in their current form, or
>> > the contained concepts reformulated into different documents for the
>> WG.
>> >  Where/how that happens is the chairs/authors call.
>> >
>> > There was discussion in Seoul about:
>> >
>> > A) Producing a base document to define 'sub-TLVs' in DLEP for the use
>> > by extensions. (Used by #2 and #4)
>> >
>> > B) Writing a draft describing the use of Flows in DLEP, whether
>> > DiffServ or otherwise differentiated, in a general sense, referring to
>> > the sub-TLVs document.
>> >
>> > C) Perhaps merging some of the good ideas from the #5 and the existing
>> > credit-windowing extension into a single draft, addressing perceived
>> > issues in both.
>> >
>> > D) Extending #1 to cover all the relevant metrics in core DLEP.
>> >
>> > I have already offered to collaborate on A and B.  So I vote for #1,
>> > #2, #3 to be accepted, and #5 merged.
>> >
>> > Contentious maybe...
>> >
>> > Rick
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, 2016-11-28 at 10:44 -0500, Stan Ratliff wrote:
>> >> David,
>> >>
>> >> Oops. I claim Monday morning fogginess after the long holiday
>> >> weekend, and being insufficiently caffeinated, as my excuse! ;-)
>> >>
>> >> WG,
>> >> My apologies for the duplication. There are but 4 extensions, but the
>> >> question to the WG is the same: To adopt, or not to adopt?
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Stan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Wiggins, David - 0665 - MITLL <Davi
>> >> d.Wiggins@ll.mit.edu> wrote:
>> >>> Hi Stan,
>> >>>
>> >>> I think #1 and #4 are the same thing, aren't they?
>> >>>
>> >>> David
>> >>>
>> >>> From: manet <manet-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Stan Ratliff <rat
>> >>> liffstan@gmail.com>
>> >>> Date: Monday, November 28, 2016 at 10:26 AM
>> >>> To: MANET IETF <manet@ietf.org>
>> >>> Subject: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group documents
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello working group participants,
>> >>>
>> >>> One of the items identified during the WG meeting in Seoul was to
>> >>> formally request, via the list, Working Group adoption of 5
>> >>> extension drafts related to DLEP. This email is that formal request.
>> >>>
>> >>> The drafts are:
>> >>> 1.
>> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ietf.org_
>> >>> html_draft-2Dcheng-2Dmanet-2Ddlep-2Dlatency-
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>> >>> 2.
>> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ietf.org_
>> >>> html_draft-2Dcheng-2Dmanet-2Ddlep-2Dpause-
>> 2Dextensi&d=DgICAg&c=LlUvi
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>> >>> 3.
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>> >>> 5.
>> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ietf.org_
>> >>> html_draft-2Dcheng-2Dmanet-2Ddlep-2Dda-2Dcredit-
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>> >>> ension-00
>> >>>
>> >>> I have put all 5 extensions on this email for expediency only;
>> >>> please do not assume that they must be adopted as a group. The
>> >>> chairs would greatly appreciate thoughts from the WG, both positive
>> >>> and negative, by December 12.
>> >>>
>> >>> For purposes of determining WG consensus, a lack of a response will
>> >>> be seen as indicating support for adopting the draft (e.g. silence
>> >>> == acceptance).
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Stan
>> >>>
>> >>>
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