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Re: [manet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-latency-extension-02.txt

Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Tue, 20 February 2018 21:29 UTC

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From: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>
To: Stan Ratliff <ratliffstan@gmail.com>, Rick Taylor <rick@tropicalstormsoftware.com>
CC: "Wiggins, David - 0665 - MITLL" <david.wiggins@ll.mit.edu>, Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>, manet <manet@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-manet-dlep-latency-extension@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [manet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-latency-extension-02.txt
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Stan,

"In lieu" of a mandatory 8175 item is a pretty big change.  I don't think 
we want to go there.  I think the rest of the text is fine.




On February 20, 2018 4:27:16 PM Stan Ratliff <ratliffstan@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with Rick on adding 'types'. So, I'll propose some text. Maybe this
> will help?
>
> "The Latency Range Data Item MAY be carried in any message where the
> Latency Data Item [RFC8175] is allowed. The Latency Range Data Item MAY be
> carried in addition to, or in lieu of, the Latency Data Item."
>
> Regards,
> Stan
>
>
>>           The Latency Range Data Item MAY be carried in the same messages
>>     ... as  the Latency Data Item defined in [RFC8175].
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 4:05 PM, Rick Taylor <rick@tropicalstormsoftware.com
>> wrote:
>
>> We have been fairly consistent in RFC8175 to refer to DLEP *messages*  I'm
>> not sure adding 'types' helps...
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: manet [mailto:manet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Wiggins, David
>> -
>> > 0665 - MITLL
>> > Sent: 20 February 2018 18:47
>> > To: Lou Berger; Abdussalam Baryun
>> > Cc: manet; draft-ietf-manet-dlep-latency-extension@ietf.org
>> > Subject: Re: [manet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-latency-
>> extension-
>> > 02.txt
>> >
>> > On 2/20/18, 12:42 PM, "manet on behalf of Lou Berger" <manet-
>> > bounces@ietf.org on behalf of lberger@labn.net> wrote:
>> >     On 2/19/2018 9:19 PM, Abdussalam Baryun wrote:
>> >     > But IMO it is not clear where the Latency Range item operates
>> within
>> >     > 8175,
>> >     >
>> >
>> >     The draft currently says:
>> >
>> >           The Latency Range Data Item MAY be carried in the same messages
>> >     ... as  the Latency Data Item defined in [RFC8175].
>> >
>> >     Is this not sufficient?
>> >
>> > Perhaps AB is reading this as "if a specific, on-the-wire message has a
>> Latency
>> > Data Item in it, then that particular message is allowed to have a
>> Latency
>> > Range Data Item.  Otherwise, it cannot have a Latency Range Data Item.
>> > AB, is that your interpretation?  If so, then maybe just saying "message
>> > types"
>> > instead of "messages" is enough clarification.
>> >
>> > David
>>
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