[manet] Re: [IPv6]Re: Requesting 6MAN adoption for "IPv6 Address for Ad Hoc Networks"

"Templin (US), Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> Tue, 20 August 2024 16:03 UTC

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To: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>
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Eric, thank you for your input and see below for responses:

Fred

From: Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
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To: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>; Templin (US), Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>
Cc: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>; IPv6 List <ipv6@ietf.org>; manet@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [IPv6]Re: Requesting 6MAN adoption for "IPv6 Address for Ad Hoc Networks"

[posting this as an individual contributor, i.e., “no hat”]

Fred,

I quickly browsed through your I-D and have some suggestions:
- please run idnits and fix all the issues

> OK.

- add some explanations about what an “ad hoc network” is rather than referring to a MANET RFC

> I will add some explanation in my document and also refer specifically to RFC5889 which is
> not a MANET RFC but rather the IETF published reference of what is meant by “Ad Hoc Network”

- the multilink is puzzling to me, does it mean that the same MLA is assigned to all interfaces of a node ?

> It means that the same MLA is assigned to all interfaces of a node connected to the same Ad Hoc
> network. If the node connects to multiple Ad Hoc networks, it must assign a different MLA to its
> interface connections to networks A, B, C, etc.

(hence the scope is required as for LLA) if so why LLA are not sufficient ?

> Yes, scope is required for a scope greater than link-local. RFC5889, Section 6.1 explains why
> LLAs are not sufficient.

- in section 4, you cannot simply `the RFC Editor is instructed to update [RFC4007] and [RFC5889] to reflect this new address type` ;-)
> What do you suggest here?

- the IANA considerations should really be more specific, especially around ` prefix length N that is short enough to ensure ample statistical address uniqueness`

> I don’t know how to be more specific without referring to specific candidate prefixes. Earlier
> versions of this document included candidate prefixes but I was asked to remove those.
> Again, what do you suggest here?

Hope this helps improving your draft and hence perhaps facilitate its adoption

Regards

-éric

From: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com<mailto:bob.hinden@gmail.com>>
Date: Friday, 16 August 2024 at 21:15
To: Templin (US), Fred L <Fred.L.Templin=40boeing.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:Fred.L.Templin=40boeing.com@dmarc.ietf.org>>
Cc: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com<mailto:bob.hinden@gmail.com>>, IPv6 List <ipv6@ietf.org<mailto:ipv6@ietf.org>>, manet@ietf.org<mailto:manet@ietf.org> <manet@ietf.org<mailto:manet@ietf.org>>
Subject: [IPv6]Re: Requesting 6MAN adoption for "IPv6 Address for Ad Hoc Networks"
Fred,

Request received.  The chairs will discuss.

BTW, Appendix A. Change Log is missing all of the changes from versions 1-23.

Bob


> On Aug 16, 2024, at 12:00 PM, Templin (US), Fred L <Fred.L.Templin=40boeing.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:Fred.L.Templin=40boeing.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
>
> "IPv6 Addresses for Ad Hoc Networks" has been updated:
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-templin-6man-mla/
>
> Updates include clarification of the need for "topology-independent"
> (in contrast to "topology-oriented") addresses and options for both
> self-generated and attestation service-coordinated MLA sub-types.
>
> 6MAN chairs - please initiate a WG adoption call for this document.
>
> Fred Templin
>
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