Re: [manet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-multi-hop-extension-02.txt

Henning Rogge <hrogge@gmail.com> Wed, 15 November 2017 06:55 UTC

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From: Henning Rogge <hrogge@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 07:54:29 +0100
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Subject: Re: [manet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-multi-hop-extension-02.txt
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The "Link Characteristic Request" message has a mandatory MAC item,
which means it can only be used for neighbor specific requests.

I think if the router has to ask for a "change" of the whole session
(and not for a specific neighbor) we should introduce a new message
type.

Henning

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 3:35 AM, Rick Taylor
<rick@tropicalstormsoftware.com> wrote:
> Clarification inline...
>
> On Wed, 2017-11-15 at 01:47 +0000, Rick Taylor wrote:
>> On Tue, 2017-11-14 at 15:55 +0000, Ratliff, Stanley wrote:
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: manet [mailto:manet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Henning
>> > > Rogge
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 2:51 AM
>> > > To: MANET IETF <manet@ietf.org>
>> > > Subject: Re: [manet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-multi-hop-
>> > > extension-
>> > > 02.txt
>> > >
>> > > I wonder if should have a "request channel characteristics"
>> > > message
>> > > to allow
>> > > the user to change the behavior of the Session, similar to the
>> > > "request link
>> > > characteristics" message.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Wouldn't the channel be a "characteristic" of the link? What I mean
>> > by that is - should we look a whole new message, or new data items
>> > describing the channel to add to LCR?
>>
>> Yes.
>
> Yes, I think Link Characteristics Request message is the right message.
>
> No, we don't need a new message.
>
> Rick