Re: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group documents

[Rick Taylor <[e-mail]>]

In which case: +1 for adoption of all.

Rick

On Mon, 2016-11-28 at 18:47 +0000, Ratliff, Stanley wrote:
> All, 
> 
> I think we have to first focus on adopting the drafts (some of them?
> all? none? That's the WG's call).  Then we can sort-out what
> restructuring should be done. 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Stan
> 
> 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: manet [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Lou Berger
> > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 1:17 PM
> > To: Rick Taylor <[e-mail]>;
> > [e-mail]; [e-mail]; [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group documents
> > 
> > I support adoption (no surprise, I'm a contributor to all).
> > 
> > I'm fine with adopting then doing the changes or doing the
> > restructuring
> > (queue parameters in own doc, merge credit extensions) then
> > adopting - is
> > the chair's call.
> > 
> > Lou
> > 
> > PS I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to these documents.
> > 
> > 
> > On 11/28/2016 12:29 PM, Rick Taylor wrote:
> > > 
> > > Stan, All,
> > > 
> > > I seem to remember there was some discussion over whether the
> > > documents should be accepted as WG documents in their current
> > > form, or
> > > the contained concepts reformulated into different documents for
> > > the
> > WG.
> > > 
> > >  Where/how that happens is the chairs/authors call.
> > > 
> > > There was discussion in Seoul about:
> > > 
> > > A) Producing a base document to define 'sub-TLVs' in DLEP for the
> > > use
> > > by extensions. (Used by #2 and #4)
> > > 
> > > B) Writing a draft describing the use of Flows in DLEP, whether
> > > DiffServ or otherwise differentiated, in a general sense,
> > > referring to
> > > the sub-TLVs document.
> > > 
> > > C) Perhaps merging some of the good ideas from the #5 and the
> > > existing
> > > credit-windowing extension into a single draft, addressing
> > > perceived
> > > issues in both.
> > > 
> > > D) Extending #1 to cover all the relevant metrics in core DLEP.
> > > 
> > > I have already offered to collaborate on A and B.  So I vote for
> > > #1,
> > > #2, #3 to be accepted, and #5 merged.
> > > 
> > > Contentious maybe...
> > > 
> > > Rick
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 2016-11-28 at 10:44 -0500, Stan Ratliff wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > David,
> > > > 
> > > > Oops. I claim Monday morning fogginess after the long holiday
> > > > weekend, and being insufficiently caffeinated, as my excuse! ;-
> > > > )
> > > > 
> > > > WG,
> > > > My apologies for the duplication. There are but 4 extensions,
> > > > but the
> > > > question to the WG is the same: To adopt, or not to adopt?
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Stan
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Wiggins, David - 0665 - MITLL
> > > > <Davi
> > > > [e-mail]> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi Stan,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think #1 and #4 are the same thing, aren't they?
> > > > > 
> > > > > David
> > > > > 
> > > > > From: manet <[e-mail]> on behalf of Stan
> > > > > Ratliff <rat
> > > > > [e-mail]>
> > > > > Date: Monday, November 28, 2016 at 10:26 AM
> > > > > To: MANET IETF <[e-mail]>
> > > > > Subject: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group
> > > > > documents
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hello working group participants,
> > > > > 
> > > > > One of the items identified during the WG meeting in Seoul
> > > > > was to
> > > > > formally request, via the list, Working Group adoption of 5
> > > > > extension drafts related to DLEP. This email is that formal
> > > > > request.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The drafts are:
> > > > > 1.
> > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ie
> > > > > tf.org_
> > > > > html_draft-2Dcheng-2Dmanet-2Ddlep-2Dlatency-
> > 2Dexten&d=DgICAg&c=LlUvi
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > dvlhStGUSxQl0giOA&r=QzgCKlK-eUsbLW5r8KZAL9L_yqNON1dbKtMa-
> > Wbxna8&m=6d
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > wQTMiMIWZZcxS2FW_XBJky-J-BfvCBGzn4k8jyFEI&s=ANa8fzRPRpn1KD-
> > IB6msobnd
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > _t8KIKpXDCbWK6zIFtY&e=
> > > > > sion-00.html
> > > > > 2.
> > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ie
> > > > > tf.org_
> > > > > html_draft-2Dcheng-2Dmanet-2Ddlep-2Dpause-
> > 2Dextensi&d=DgICAg&c=LlUvi
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > dvlhStGUSxQl0giOA&r=QzgCKlK-eUsbLW5r8KZAL9L_yqNON1dbKtMa-
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> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > stRUoMW7UbF7s1a2o8w&e=
> > > > > on-00
> > > > > 3.
> > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ie
> > > > > tf.org_
> > > > > html_draft-2Dcheng-2Dmanet-2Ddlep-2Dmulti-2Dhop-
> > 2Dext&d=DgICAg&c=LlU
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > vidvlhStGUSxQl0giOA&r=QzgCKlK-eUsbLW5r8KZAL9L_yqNON1dbKtMa-
> > Wbxna8&m=
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> > > > 
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> > > > > 6dwQTMiMIWZZcxS2FW_XBJky-J-
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> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > tIQGL6o0uEXispDAg400g&e=
> > > > > ension-00
> > > > > 4.
> > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ie
> > > > > tf.org_
> > > > > html_draft-2Dcheng-2Dmanet-2Ddlep-2Dlatency-
> > 2Dexten&d=DgICAg&c=LlUvi
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > dvlhStGUSxQl0giOA&r=QzgCKlK-eUsbLW5r8KZAL9L_yqNON1dbKtMa-
> > Wbxna8&m=6d
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > wQTMiMIWZZcxS2FW_XBJky-J-BfvCBGzn4k8jyFEI&s=ANa8fzRPRpn1KD-
> > IB6msobnd
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > _t8KIKpXDCbWK6zIFtY&e=
> > > > > sion-00
> > > > > 5.
> > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ie
> > > > > tf.org_
> > > > > html_draft-2Dcheng-2Dmanet-2Ddlep-2Dda-2Dcredit-
> > 2Dext&d=DgICAg&c=LlU
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > vidvlhStGUSxQl0giOA&r=QzgCKlK-eUsbLW5r8KZAL9L_yqNON1dbKtMa-
> > Wbxna8&m=
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 6dwQTMiMIWZZcxS2FW_XBJky-J-
> > BfvCBGzn4k8jyFEI&s=Pfm1aX9PLkAMWkC1fpHoMH
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > mtldAPycgMVePRoYWBGNI&e=
> > > > > ension-00
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have put all 5 extensions on this email for expediency
> > > > > only;
> > > > > please do not assume that they must be adopted as a group.
> > > > > The
> > > > > chairs would greatly appreciate thoughts from the WG, both
> > > > > positive
> > > > > and negative, by December 12.
> > > > > 
> > > > > For purposes of determining WG consensus, a lack of a
> > > > > response will
> > > > > be seen as indicating support for adopting the draft (e.g.
> > > > > silence
> > > > > == acceptance).
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Stan
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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