Re: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group documents
Rick Taylor <rick@tropicalstormsoftware.com> Tue, 29 November 2016 10:21 UTC
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From: Rick Taylor <rick@tropicalstormsoftware.com>
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Thread-Topic: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group documents
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Subject: Re: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group documents
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In which case: +1 for adoption of all. Rick On Mon, 2016-11-28 at 18:47 +0000, Ratliff, Stanley wrote: > All, > > I think we have to first focus on adopting the drafts (some of them? > all? none? That's the WG's call). Then we can sort-out what > restructuring should be done. > > > Regards, > Stan > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: manet [mailto:manet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger > > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 1:17 PM > > To: Rick Taylor <rick@tropicalstormsoftware.com>; > > David.Wiggins@ll.mit.edu; ratliffstan@gmail.com; manet@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group documents > > > > I support adoption (no surprise, I'm a contributor to all). > > > > I'm fine with adopting then doing the changes or doing the > > restructuring > > (queue parameters in own doc, merge credit extensions) then > > adopting - is > > the chair's call. > > > > Lou > > > > PS I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to these documents. > > > > > > On 11/28/2016 12:29 PM, Rick Taylor wrote: > > > > > > Stan, All, > > > > > > I seem to remember there was some discussion over whether the > > > documents should be accepted as WG documents in their current > > > form, or > > > the contained concepts reformulated into different documents for > > > the > > WG. > > > > > > Where/how that happens is the chairs/authors call. > > > > > > There was discussion in Seoul about: > > > > > > A) Producing a base document to define 'sub-TLVs' in DLEP for the > > > use > > > by extensions. (Used by #2 and #4) > > > > > > B) Writing a draft describing the use of Flows in DLEP, whether > > > DiffServ or otherwise differentiated, in a general sense, > > > referring to > > > the sub-TLVs document. > > > > > > C) Perhaps merging some of the good ideas from the #5 and the > > > existing > > > credit-windowing extension into a single draft, addressing > > > perceived > > > issues in both. > > > > > > D) Extending #1 to cover all the relevant metrics in core DLEP. > > > > > > I have already offered to collaborate on A and B. So I vote for > > > #1, > > > #2, #3 to be accepted, and #5 merged. > > > > > > Contentious maybe... > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2016-11-28 at 10:44 -0500, Stan Ratliff wrote: > > > > > > > > David, > > > > > > > > Oops. I claim Monday morning fogginess after the long holiday > > > > weekend, and being insufficiently caffeinated, as my excuse! ;- > > > > ) > > > > > > > > WG, > > > > My apologies for the duplication. There are but 4 extensions, > > > > but the > > > > question to the WG is the same: To adopt, or not to adopt? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Stan > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Wiggins, David - 0665 - MITLL > > > > <Davi > > > > d.Wiggins@ll.mit.edu> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Stan, > > > > > > > > > > I think #1 and #4 are the same thing, aren't they? > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > From: manet <manet-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Stan > > > > > Ratliff <rat > > > > > liffstan@gmail.com> > > > > > Date: Monday, November 28, 2016 at 10:26 AM > > > > > To: MANET IETF <manet@ietf.org> > > > > > Subject: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group > > > > > documents > > > > > > > > > > Hello working group participants, > > > > > > > > > > One of the items identified during the WG meeting in Seoul > > > > > was to > > > > > formally request, via the list, Working Group adoption of 5 > > > > > extension drafts related to DLEP. This email is that formal > > > > > request. > > > > > > > > > > The drafts are: > > > > > 1. > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ie > > > > > tf.org_ > > > > > html_draft-2Dcheng-2Dmanet-2Ddlep-2Dlatency- > > 2Dexten&d=DgICAg&c=LlUvi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dvlhStGUSxQl0giOA&r=QzgCKlK-eUsbLW5r8KZAL9L_yqNON1dbKtMa- > > Wbxna8&m=6d > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wQTMiMIWZZcxS2FW_XBJky-J-BfvCBGzn4k8jyFEI&s=ANa8fzRPRpn1KD- > > IB6msobnd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _t8KIKpXDCbWK6zIFtY&e= > > > > > sion-00.html > > > > > 2. > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ie > > > > > tf.org_ > > > > > html_draft-2Dcheng-2Dmanet-2Ddlep-2Dpause- > > 2Dextensi&d=DgICAg&c=LlUvi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dvlhStGUSxQl0giOA&r=QzgCKlK-eUsbLW5r8KZAL9L_yqNON1dbKtMa- > > Wbxna8&m=6d > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wQTMiMIWZZcxS2FW_XBJky-J- > > BfvCBGzn4k8jyFEI&s=Wv6qbM0mWkXcfS_hVjugB-xs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stRUoMW7UbF7s1a2o8w&e= > > > > > on-00 > > > > > 3. > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ie > > > > > tf.org_ > > > > > html_draft-2Dcheng-2Dmanet-2Ddlep-2Dmulti-2Dhop- > > 2Dext&d=DgICAg&c=LlU > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vidvlhStGUSxQl0giOA&r=QzgCKlK-eUsbLW5r8KZAL9L_yqNON1dbKtMa- > > Wbxna8&m= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6dwQTMiMIWZZcxS2FW_XBJky-J- > > BfvCBGzn4k8jyFEI&s=Zqsf8OPHI2iNaHbNzC8GPz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tIQGL6o0uEXispDAg400g&e= > > > > > ension-00 > > > > > 4. > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ie > > > > > tf.org_ > > > > > html_draft-2Dcheng-2Dmanet-2Ddlep-2Dlatency- > > 2Dexten&d=DgICAg&c=LlUvi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dvlhStGUSxQl0giOA&r=QzgCKlK-eUsbLW5r8KZAL9L_yqNON1dbKtMa- > > Wbxna8&m=6d > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wQTMiMIWZZcxS2FW_XBJky-J-BfvCBGzn4k8jyFEI&s=ANa8fzRPRpn1KD- > > IB6msobnd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _t8KIKpXDCbWK6zIFtY&e= > > > > > sion-00 > > > > > 5. > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ie > > > > > tf.org_ > > > > > html_draft-2Dcheng-2Dmanet-2Ddlep-2Dda-2Dcredit- > > 2Dext&d=DgICAg&c=LlU > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vidvlhStGUSxQl0giOA&r=QzgCKlK-eUsbLW5r8KZAL9L_yqNON1dbKtMa- > > Wbxna8&m= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6dwQTMiMIWZZcxS2FW_XBJky-J- > > BfvCBGzn4k8jyFEI&s=Pfm1aX9PLkAMWkC1fpHoMH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mtldAPycgMVePRoYWBGNI&e= > > > > > ension-00 > > > > > > > > > > I have put all 5 extensions on this email for expediency > > > > > only; > > > > > please do not assume that they must be adopted as a group. > > > > > The > > > > > chairs would greatly appreciate thoughts from the WG, both > > > > > positive > > > > > and negative, by December 12. > > > > > > > > > > For purposes of determining WG consensus, a lack of a > > > > > response will > > > > > be seen as indicating support for adopting the draft (e.g. > > > > > silence > > > > > == acceptance). > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Stan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > manet mailing list > > > > manet@ietf.org > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- > > 3A__www.ietf.org_mai > > > > > > > > > > > lman_listinfo_manet&d=DgICAg&c=LlUvidvlhStGUSxQl0giOA&r=QzgCKlK > > > > - > > eUsbL > > > > > > > > > > > W5r8KZAL9L_yqNON1dbKtMa- > > Wbxna8&m=6dwQTMiMIWZZcxS2FW_XBJky-J-BfvCBGzn4 > > > > > > > > > > > k8jyFEI&s=hr-_ixL6nDbaQUKJS3SWWMc7ZCa0MELuJ87hjJ_Vg2w&e= > > > _______________________________________________ > > > manet mailing list > > > manet@ietf.org > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- > > 3A__www.ietf.org_mail > > > > > > man_listinfo_manet&d=DgICAg&c=LlUvidvlhStGUSxQl0giOA&r=QzgCKlK- > > eUsbLW5 > > > > > > r8KZAL9L_yqNON1dbKtMa-Wbxna8&m=6dwQTMiMIWZZcxS2FW_XBJky-J- > > BfvCBGzn4k8j > > > > > > yFEI&s=hr-_ixL6nDbaQUKJS3SWWMc7ZCa0MELuJ87hjJ_Vg2w&e= > > _______________________________________________ > > manet mailing list > > manet@ietf.org > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- > > 3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_manet&d=DgICAg&c=LlUvidvlhStGUSx > > Ql0giOA&r=QzgCKlK-eUsbLW5r8KZAL9L_yqNON1dbKtMa- > > Wbxna8&m=6dwQTMiMIWZZcxS2FW_XBJky-J-BfvCBGzn4k8jyFEI&s=hr- > > _ixL6nDbaQUKJS3SWWMc7ZCa0MELuJ87hjJ_Vg2w&e= > ===================================================================== > ===================================================================== > == > This electronic message and any files transmitted with it contains > information from iDirect, which may be privileged, proprietary > and/or confidential. 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- [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group docu… Stan Ratliff
- Re: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group … Stan Ratliff
- Re: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group … Rick Taylor
- Re: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group … Lou Berger
- Re: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group … Ratliff, Stanley
- Re: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group … Ratliff, Stanley
- Re: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group … Cheng, Bow-Nan - 0665 - MITLL
- Re: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group … Rick Taylor
- Re: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group … Wiggins, David - 0665 - MITLL
- Re: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group … Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group … Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group … Henning Rogge
- Re: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group … Ratliff, Stanley
- Re: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group … Henning Rogge
- [manet] Fwd: Call for acceptance as Working Group… Stan Ratliff
- Re: [manet] Fwd: Call for acceptance as Working G… Lou Berger
- Re: [manet] Fwd: Call for acceptance as Working G… Stan Ratliff
- Re: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group … Stan Ratliff