Re: [manet] OLSRv2 futures
Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> Wed, 08 November 2023 13:08 UTC
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Subject: Re: [manet] OLSRv2 futures
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On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 2:55 PM Christopher Dearlove < christopher.dearlove@gmail.com> wrote: > To summarise where I think things are with regard to OLSRv2, starting from > the easiest - not necessarily the most important (if anything is). > > - A simple standards track document that adds permission to for a router > to send one or more unscheduled TC messages (probably changing schedule) on > learning of a new router in the network (on adding an entry to the > Advertising Router Set). However, a complication is that the motivation for > this is based on the next item, so how to package the two would be an > issue, as there’s a standards track/informative mismatch. Probably end up > repeating some material. > > - An informative document that explains how OLSRv2 (including NHDP) can be > used in ways that allow more efficient use in some scenarios. I have notes > somewhere that can expand on some of this. It could be considered as > rationale for many of the design decisions. A possibly non-exhaustive list > of these features and use is: > + The ability to work responsively, only sending messages when the > situation changes. (This might need the first point above for ideal use.) > Assumes a stable network, other than joiners/leavers and the changes they > offer/require, and the ability to recognise local changes. (Or continue to > use NHDP as usual.) > + The ability to change parameters dynamically. Enables features such as > exponential backoff in stable circumstances, with reversion when changes > occur. Similar to the above in some regards. > + Different parameters on different routers and different interfaces. The > former is potentially useful when e.g. some routers are moving rapidly. > Ideally some modelling would support this. > + The ability to set multiple TC interval times at different distances, > implementing the concept of fisheye/HSLS routing. Requires some, not easily > defined, network properties to be suitable (density largely). > > From this point down, there needs to be real motivation to consider them. > (Also true above, but I think that might exist.) > > - A mechanism to allow a forgetful router to rejoin a network without > waiting for timeout of its previous messages. Ranked lower than the above > because it’s a change, and compatibility has to be considered. > > - A mechanism to allow a router to dump its topology information to a new > neighbour for fast full joining. There are lots of questions here - > solicited or unsolicited, message format (and how to make 5444 compatible > when it expresses the relationship between two addresses, not a > characteristic of one address), in HELLO message? > > And a long way down, and I don’t think there’s enough commitment from the > WG, or even real use cases openly demonstrated: > > - Adding reactive features (RREQ/RREP messages) to OLSRv2. In principle > this wants a reactive protocol, but as so much would need re-engineering, > knowledge of AODV/AODVv2/LOADng might suffice. Although the technical > problems with AODVv2 remain issues to be solved here. The basic concept is > routers not prepared to do what’s needed proactively (though this has more > than one level) but prepared to do some or all of the work reactively (also > more than one level). The full generalisation is a form of policy-based > routing. > I think the AODV algorithm is same for all just few functional changes among those versions, however, DLEP can help to trigger routers to do what is needed. AB
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