Re: [manet] comments on draft-berger-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension

Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Thu, 29 July 2021 23:58 UTC

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To: "Velt, R. (Ronald) in 't" <Ronald.intVelt@tno.nl>, "Wiggins, David - 0665 - MITLL" <David.Wiggins@ll.mit.edu>, "manet@ietf.org" <manet@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [manet] comments on draft-berger-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension
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Hi Ronald,

Sorry for missing this one, see below

On 7/15/2021 1:25 PM, Velt, R. (Ronald) in 't wrote:
>
> Hi Authors, WG participants,
>
> Please find below my comments (as WG participant) on 
> draft-berger-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ronald
>
> --
>
> Major Issues
>
> ============
>
> None
>
> Minor Issues
>
> ============
>
> Section 1, Introduction, contains the somewhat puzzling sentence 
> "Traffic sent by a router will use traffic flow classification 
> information provided by the modem to identify which traffic is 
> associated with each credit window." I would think it is the router, 
> as opposed to the traffic, that uses the classification information. 
> The traffic, which may originate from an upstream source, is what it 
> is. But then the question is HOW the router should make use of the 
> classification information. Should it e.g. set IEEE 802.1Q PCPs on 
> particular flows to ensure that they receive preferential treatment 
> (i.e., are throttled last in case of congestion)? In my opinion, at 
> the very least the sentence quoted above should be rephrased; in 
> addition some further clarification on the mechanism foreseen could be 
> helpful.
>
Agreed!
>
> Nits
>
> ====
>
> Section 1
>
> 3rd para: "... to provided credit window based flow control ..." => 
> "... to provide credit window based flow control ..."
>
agreed
>
> 3rd para: "... based on on DLEP destination and Ethernet VLANs and 
> Priority Code Points. " => "... based on DLEP destinations and 
> Ethernet VLANs and Priority Code Points. "
>
agreed
>
> 3rd para: "...shared across traffic sent to multiple DLEP destinations 
> VLANs, and PCPs, ..." => "...shared across traffic sent to multiple 
> DLEP destinations, VLANs and PCPs, ..."
>
thanks
>
> Section 2
>
> 1st para: "... the Ethernet Traffic Classification Sub Data Item," => 
> "... the Ethernet Traffic Classification Sub-Data Item," (following 
> the precedent set by RFC8651)
>
Done!

Thanks again, will have the update out shortly!

Lou

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