Re: [manet] AD Review of draft-ietf-manet-dlep-multi-hop-extension-05

"Velt, R. (Ronald) in 't" <Ronald.intVelt@tno.nl> Fri, 15 March 2019 17:11 UTC

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From: "Velt, R. (Ronald) in 't" <Ronald.intVelt@tno.nl>
To: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>, Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com>, "draft-ietf-manet-dlep-multi-hop-extension@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-manet-dlep-multi-hop-extension@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [manet] AD Review of draft-ietf-manet-dlep-multi-hop-extension-05
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Lou,

Another nit, see below.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: manet <manet-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Lou Berger
> Sent: vrijdag 15 maart 2019 17:10
> To: Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com>; draft-ietf-manet-dlep-multi-
> hop-extension@ietf.org
> Cc: manet@ietf.org; Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Working Group <manet-
> chairs@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [manet] AD Review of draft-ietf-manet-dlep-multi-hop-
> extension-05
> 
> 
> On 3/15/2019 11:47 AM, Alvaro Retana wrote:
> > On March 8, 2019 at 9:54:24 AM, Lou Berger (lberger@labn.net
> > <mailto:lberger@labn.net>) wrote:
> >
> > Lou:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Thanks for getting this done.
> >
> > I have a couple of nits below — and will also send a reply to your
> > exchange with Justin.   I’ll start the IETF LC in a couple of minutes.
> >
> > Alvaro.
> >
> >
> > ...
> >>>>>> ...
> >>>>>> 72 1. Introduction
> >>>>>> ...
> >>>>>> 80 Some modem technologies support connectivity to destinations
> >>>>>> via
> >>>>>> 81 multi-hop forwarding.  DLEP Destination messages can be used
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> 82 report such connectivity, see [RFC8175], but do not provide
> >>>>>> any
> >>>>>> 83 information related to the number or capacity of the hops. The
> >>>>>> 84 extension defined in this document enables modems to inform
> >>>>>> routers
> >>>>>> 85 when multi-hop forwarding is being used, and routers to
> >>>>>> request that
> >>>>>> 86 modems change multi-hop forwarding behavior.  The extension
> >>>>>> defined
> >>>>>> 87 in this document is referred to as "Multi-Hop Forwarding".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [major] Please define "multi-hop forwarding" in the context of
> >>>>>> the modems.
> >>
> >> Done, please see the changes at the repo posted above and let me know
> >> if the changes are sufficient.
> >
> > Yes, I think that’s fine.  Just a nit: there’s some orphaned text
> > (“example using”) left in the new text.
> >
> >
> woops - thanks.
> > ...
> >>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 166   Reserved:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 168      MUST be set to zero by the sender (a modem) and ignored
> >>>>>> by the
> >>>>>> 169      receiver (a router).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [major] I think that a registry for these bits is needed.
> >>>>>> Otherwise anyone can use them...
> >>
> >> My inclination would be to establish a registry on the second usage
> >> of the reserved field.  Right now I don't see additional uses and it
> >> seems like a lot of unneeded overhead at this point.  Of course,
> >> you're the AD so your view counts for more ;-)
> >
> > …but you still didn’t define the registry. :-(
> >
> > Seriously:  it’s ok.  I trust that the next user will do the right thing.
> >
> Thanks!
> 
> I've pushed your and some other nit changes to the repo, but don't think
> they need hold anything.

... and then there is a then that should be a than 😉 (line 191 in the latest repo version: "any messages other THAN a Link Characteristics Response Message.")

Thanks,
Ronald

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Lou
> 
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