Re: [Manycouches] Stay Home Meet Online (SHMO) draft and proposed WG

Dave Lawrence <tale@dd.org> Thu, 14 May 2020 20:36 UTC

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Michael Richardson writes:
> So, there is always this adage that we can always re-charter a WG
> and re-open it, that makes it easy for us to close it.
> 
> Do we really like making new TLAs so much?

Speaking for myself, not really; I'm kind of put off by how often
collisions occur.  But besides that, why do we care either way here?

I appreciate your larger point that you don't have to really twist
things too much see how mtgvenue could have been a suitable home, but
I'm unclear what drives it to be superior.  Are we at risk of either
missing interested parties or over-including disinterested parties?