Re: [Manycouches] DOGFOOD Virtual BoF

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Wed, 17 April 2019 16:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Manycouches] DOGFOOD Virtual BoF
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I think we have to start somewhere, so starting with some base case - 
say just email - makes more sense than trying every tool right off the bat.

Or _maybe_ email and some sort of shared editor that can keep track of 
what's been concluded. but even then we need to have some discipline for 
what to put where.   Also, if we use multiple tools without some kind of 
integration between them I don't think we'll find that collection of 
tools very useful.   Sometimes even when sticking to one tool - say 
slack - I find that the information that emerges from the discussion is 
so scattered that it's nearly unusable.

I also am loathe to use third-party tools that track my activity, and 
would not want to see IETF adopt such tools.  So, for instance, google 
anything is (IMO) not appropriate.

We should decide what kind of tools we need rather than insisting on 
shoehorning our activity into existing tools.   And I'm not aware of an 
existing tool that would do the job well.

On 4/17/19 11:11 AM, Mukom Akong T. wrote:
> I think we ought to question even the tools and not assume that the 
> current tools as we have now are the best ones for the new approach we 
> want to try.
> If there's some more effective tool out there, let's find it and try 
> it. It's better to settle on current tools with the secure knowledge 
> that we've tried the alternatives.
>