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Re: [Manycouches] New Normal? [ Stay Home Meet Online (SHMO) draft and proposed WG]

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 14 May 2020 21:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Manycouches] New Normal? [ Stay Home Meet Online (SHMO) draft and proposed WG]
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On 15-May-20 02:13, Michael Richardson wrote:
> 
> Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> wrote:
>     > I like the idea of more deadlines. But the ID cut off seems like the
>     > wrong tool. Its an artifact of the old model. 

To be clear, I wrote "replacing the I-D cutoff" for exactly that reason.
But we humans seem to be deadline-driven, so drafts/slides/videos/whatever
before the deadline will be needed.

And I would push hard for an annual f2f. Social cohesion requires that.
I think the current global Zoomathon proves that too.

   Brian

> Here an alternative
>     > strawman.
> 
> A good idea, please take it to manycouches, and I will be happy to help
> co-author a draft about this idea.
> 
>     > IETF is organized around four quarters. Each quarter there is a series
>     > of virtual area meetings followed by a virtual plenary. These should be
>     > no more than two days in combination.
> 
>     > The formal purpose of the area meetings is for WGs to report progress
>     > to their area and the formal purpose of the plenary is to receive
>     > progress reports from the areas.
> 
>     > The informal purpose of course is to provide deadlines but also to
>     > actually facilitate the alleged cross-area fertilization of IETF which
>     > is great in theory but rarely happens if we all have a full slate of
>     > area WG meetings.
> 
>     > WGs could hold virtual interims at any time outside those dates with
>     > the proviso that there should be a week before the quarterly. WGs could
>     > hold fortnightly con calls if they liked.
> 
>     > Area meetings would be scheduled so that people can attend all of them
>     > if they choose. Preferably over no more than two days. If the plenary
>     > is a half day, that is a total of 7.5 days for the virtual meetings
>     > combined.
> 
> We should do this REGARDLESS of whether or not we meet again soon.
> 
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