Re: [Manycouches] [admin-discuss] Follow up on consultation on planning for IETF 111

Le 12/04/2021 à 04:45, John C Klensin a écrit :
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> --On Sunday, April 11, 2021 17:29 -0700 Fred Baker 
> <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On Apr 11, 2021, at 1:17 PM, Andrew Campling 
>>> <andrew.campling@419.consulting> wrote:
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>>> Without these in-person meetings I believe that the IETF risks
>>> fracturing into a number of largely separate activities with
>>> minimal overlap, increasingly driven by the interests of 
>>> companies and with little regard for the "big picture". In-person
>>> meetings build a sense of community as well as fostering the
>>> cross-pollination of ideas, diluting the former risks harming the
>>> community over the medium-term.
>> 
>> I am of a similar opinion/concern.
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> To be clear, I agree.  I was not proposing elimination of in-person
> meetings and one of my biggest concerns about the IETF in recent
> years is that several activities seem to be sliding toward isolated
> activities and losing that big picture, since of community, etc.  The
> question I think is worth asking --and the one I, perhaps
> incorrectly, took Brian as asking-- is about how many of those
> meetings we need.

I still need to look for funding of my future meetings participation,
but in that sense it would be easier for me (just my personal case), if
there were only two meetings a year.  If there are three, then I might
skip one and loose track.  Or I might try harder to look for funding and
get funded for 3-times per year travel to IETF.

Alex

    More specifically, is the
> incremental value of three meetings a year over two meetings a year,
> or over five meetings in two years, high enough to justify the
> additional costs (to the IETF and to participants), travel time, etc.
> Conversely, if we need three meetings a year to foster the sense of
> community and other good things you are talking about, would we be
> even better off with four a year or some other larger number?
> 
> best, john
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