Re: [Manycouches] FW: New Version Notification for draft-kuehlewind-shmoo-online-meeting-00.txt

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Mon, 05 April 2021 20:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Manycouches] FW: New Version Notification for draft-kuehlewind-shmoo-online-meeting-00.txt
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Martin,

> Meetings run in one of three slots:
> from 0000-0600 UTC ("Asia"), 0800-1400 UTC ("Europe"), or 1600-2200 UTC ("North America").

I think that is very reasonable, although I suggest qualifying it with "approximately". Also, the second one might be more neutrally labelled as "EMEA" (Europe/Middle East/Africa) and the third one as "The Americas".

Regards
   Brian Carpenter

On 06-Apr-21 07:12, Martin Duke wrote:
> Hi Mirja,
> 
> Thanks for writing this draft. It's going in the right direction.
> 
> In hindsight, I think tying the time zone to the original host venue's time zone has created a lot of unnecessary bikeshedding about whether the time window is "really" Prague time. Furthermore, if we ever have a deliberately planned remote meeting, there may not be a venue to use as a reference.
> 
> I would recommend the following instead:
> Meetings run in one of three slots:
> from 0000-0600 UTC ("Asia"), 0800-1400 UTC ("Europe"), or 1600-2200 UTC ("North America").
> 
> 1. If there are fewer than three in-person meetings in a calendar year, pick the slot from a region that didn't get a meeting
> 2. If all regions got an in-person meeting in the calendar year, pick the one that has not had a remote meeting in its zone for the longest.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 9:17 AM Mirja Kuehlewind <mirja.kuehlewind=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org <mailto:40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
> 
>     HI all,
> 
>     I submitted a new draft that aims to summarise how we are currently organising online only meetings (inline with the milestones this group has on that).
> 
>     Currently the document is rather recording what we have done than really providing guidance. We don’t have similar guidance for in person-meetings and not sure how much we need to fix in a draft rather then being open to experiment with these things in future. However, documenting where we are seems useful and I am happy to add more concrete guidance for those things where we do manage to reach some consensus.
> 
>     Please have a look and provide feedback!
> 
>     Mirja
> 
>     On 16.03.21, 17:12, "internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>" <internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>> wrote:
> 
> 
>         A new version of I-D, draft-kuehlewind-shmoo-online-meeting-00.txt
>         has been successfully submitted by =?utf-8?q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind?= and posted to the
>         IETF repository.
> 
>         Name:               draft-kuehlewind-shmoo-online-meeting
>         Revision:   00
>         Title:              Guidelines for the Organization of Fully Online Meetings
>         Document date:      2021-03-16
>         Group:              Individual Submission
>         Pages:              6
>         URL:            https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-kuehlewind-shmoo-online-meeting-00.txt
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> 
> 
>         Abstract:
>            This document provides guidelines for the planning and organization
>            of fully online meetings, regarding the number, length, and
>            composition of sessions on the meeting agenda.  These guideline are
>            based on the experience after the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020.
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