Re: [Manycouches] IETF109 starts at noon (local time)

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Sun, 18 October 2020 22:46 UTC

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Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
    >> First, I would like to know why we can do 9hr long days in person,  while we
    >> can't even manage 7.5 hour virtual days.

    > It is called Zoom fatigue.  It is very real.

Is it worse to have 6 hours of meetings in a 7.5 hr time (with 30 minute breaks)
vs 6 hours of meetings in a 9hr time (with 1.5hr breaks)?  I'm ignorant.
I don't know.

    >> I don't think it helps people in any of the time zones.

    > (It sure helps the Europeans.)

Ah, yes.  I understand.
I thought were were supposed to optimize the meeting for the Asia-Pacificans :-)
Didn't we optimize it for the Europeans last time?

    >> I expect to flip my time zone: it's the full 12 hour flip for me.
    >> Starting later doesn't help me much.
    >> {Given my investment of ~36hours to do this, I'd kinda like to maximimze my
    >> investment.}
    >>
    >> The current schedule has only 30 minute breaks.
    >> This isn't enough for people where it's "day" to eat and still do any kind of
    >> cross-polination.

    > I expect to have some kind of screen breakfast/early lunch.

Yes, in the end, I can cope.  Also, muting while crunching.
I've already learnt that my local 24/7 store/gas-station is actually a
23.25hr/7 store.  Apparently, they *do* close at 5am-ish to mop the floor, and
won't let me in while the floor is wet.
If I walk briskly, I can even make it there and back in 30min.
I really can't complain about a clean floor.

    >> The bigger point is that 30 minutes is not enough to:
    >> 1) finish 3 minutes late
    >> 2) go to the washroom
    >> 3) connect to gather.town to chat with someone
    >> 4) eat/drink while this occurs

    > Eat during session then.  (Don’t forget to mute :-)

really, what I'm saying is that we are short-changing the hallway/gather.town track.

    >> 5) arrive 3 minutes early for the next session
    >>
    >> I'm glad that there are 7 tracks rather than 8, though.

    > (I’m not sure what you are referring to here.
    > There are slots with 5, 6, 7, and 8 rooms.)

oh. Maybe my random sampling was inadequate.

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