Re: [Manycouches] IETF109 starts at noon (local time)
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Sun, 18 October 2020 22:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Manycouches] IETF109 starts at noon (local time)
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Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote: >> First, I would like to know why we can do 9hr long days in person, while we >> can't even manage 7.5 hour virtual days. > It is called Zoom fatigue. It is very real. Is it worse to have 6 hours of meetings in a 7.5 hr time (with 30 minute breaks) vs 6 hours of meetings in a 9hr time (with 1.5hr breaks)? I'm ignorant. I don't know. >> I don't think it helps people in any of the time zones. > (It sure helps the Europeans.) Ah, yes. I understand. I thought were were supposed to optimize the meeting for the Asia-Pacificans :-) Didn't we optimize it for the Europeans last time? >> I expect to flip my time zone: it's the full 12 hour flip for me. >> Starting later doesn't help me much. >> {Given my investment of ~36hours to do this, I'd kinda like to maximimze my >> investment.} >> >> The current schedule has only 30 minute breaks. >> This isn't enough for people where it's "day" to eat and still do any kind of >> cross-polination. > I expect to have some kind of screen breakfast/early lunch. Yes, in the end, I can cope. Also, muting while crunching. I've already learnt that my local 24/7 store/gas-station is actually a 23.25hr/7 store. Apparently, they *do* close at 5am-ish to mop the floor, and won't let me in while the floor is wet. If I walk briskly, I can even make it there and back in 30min. I really can't complain about a clean floor. >> The bigger point is that 30 minutes is not enough to: >> 1) finish 3 minutes late >> 2) go to the washroom >> 3) connect to gather.town to chat with someone >> 4) eat/drink while this occurs > Eat during session then. (Don’t forget to mute :-) really, what I'm saying is that we are short-changing the hallway/gather.town track. >> 5) arrive 3 minutes early for the next session >> >> I'm glad that there are 7 tracks rather than 8, though. > (I’m not sure what you are referring to here. > There are slots with 5, 6, 7, and 8 rooms.) oh. Maybe my random sampling was inadequate. -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | IoT architect [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [
- [Manycouches] IETF109 starts at noon (local time) Michael Richardson
- Re: [Manycouches] IETF109 starts at noon (local t… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Manycouches] IETF109 starts at noon (local t… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Manycouches] IETF109 starts at noon (local t… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Manycouches] IETF109 starts at noon (local t… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Manycouches] IETF109 starts at noon (local t… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [Manycouches] IETF109 starts at noon (local t… Tim Chown
- Re: [Manycouches] IETF109 starts at noon (local t… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Manycouches] IETF109 starts at noon (local t… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [Manycouches] IETF109 starts at noon (local t… Cj Aronson
- Re: [Manycouches] IETF109 starts at noon (local t… Fred Baker
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- Re: [Manycouches] many-fine-dinners --- a view on… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [Manycouches] many-fine-dinners --- a view on… Martin Duke
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- Re: [Manycouches] many-fine-dinners --- a view on… Martin Duke
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- Re: [Manycouches] many-fine-dinners --- a view on… Michael Richardson
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- Re: [Manycouches] many-fine-dinners --- a view on… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [Manycouches] many-fine-dinners --- a view on… Alexandre Petrescu
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- Re: [Manycouches] many-fine-dinners --- a view on… Michael Richardson
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- Re: [Manycouches] many-fine-dinners --- a view on… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Manycouches] many-fine-dinners --- a view on… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Manycouches] many-fine-dinners --- a view on… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Manycouches] many-fine-dinners --- a view on… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Manycouches] many-fine-dinners --- a view on… Michael Richardson
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