Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-marf-as-14: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> Wed, 25 April 2012 12:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-marf-as-14: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Hi Barry, >> Let me ask a very basic question to everybody, including the other IESG >> members: what is the goal of an Applicability Statement? >> 1. Explain how the technical specifications are used "in the wild", as you >> mentioned. So a deployment experience document >> 2. Or explain how the technical specifications should be used for the >> different use cases (generally specified in a requirement document) >> >> When I read RFC 2026 section 3.2, I conclude for 2. > Yes, 2. But an AS doesn't necessarily (perhaps usually doesn't) cover > every use case. Consider the greylisting document that's also on this > week's telechat: it's describing how to use SMTP for a specific use > case, to do a specific thing. Many AS documents will be of that > nature, talking about certain use cases, but not every possible one. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-appsawg-greylisting/ is different, as its scope is well defined, starting with the title: "Email Greylisting: An Applicability Statement for SMTP" On the other hand, "Creation and Use of Email Feedback Reports: An Applicability Statement for the Abuse Reporting Format (ARF)" points to a generic ARF application statement... which is not. Regards, Benoit. > >> Therefore, I'm in favor to mention how fraud, not-spam, virus should be >> used. > The working group chose to center the marf-as document on the cases > that are actually in use today. I think that's a fine choice. It > might be reasonable to have one or more AS documents about the > less-common use cases, and that/those could be written later. This > isn't that document. > > Barry > >
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Barry Leiba
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Barry Leiba
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Barry Leiba
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Benoit Claise
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Benoit Claise
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Benoit Claise
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… SM
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Pete Resnick
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Pete Resnick
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Benoit Claise