Re: [Marnew] RFC 6077

+1 on lunchtime discussion. Or something.

Anything like QUIC or SPUD is going to need to work on lots of network
types (at least as well as TCP does), right? So understanding the
characteristics at a coarse level will be helpful, but tying proposals to
specific versions of LTE (say) isn't going to worth the way we want to
work, across network times and over time.

Spencer

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Smith, Kevin, (R&D) Vodafone Group <
Kevin.Smith@vodafone.com> wrote:

> Certainly I think that info pertaining to the cell (or cell cluster) as a whole is best managed at the RRC, the dedicated radio resource controller within 3GPP networks. As Cameron says that aspect is too dynamic and ephemeral to effectively share. But there may be cases where the Android API can provide a coarse hint that is useful,  would be worth testing that.
>
> Cheers
> Kevin
>
> Blake Matheny <bmatheny@fb.com> wrote:
>
>
> People have been calculating bandwidth on their own successfully for a
> long time, I’ll look at the code and see what my be different here.
>
> At the risk of taking this far off track, maybe this would be a good lunch
> time discussion. Bandwidth is necessary, but not sufficient, for fully
> understanding underlying network characteristics.
>
> -Blake
>
> From: Andreas Terzis
> Date: Thursday, September 24, 2015 at 9:48 AM
> To: Blake Matheny
> Cc: Vijay Devarapalli, Ca By, "Scharf, Michael (Michael)", "Smith, Kevin,
> (R&D) Vodafone Group", "marnew@iab.org"
> Subject: Re: [Marnew] RFC 6077
>
> Blake,
>
> Please look at requestBandwidthUpdate() coming up in Android M as an API
> of exposing available capacity on the radio downlink.
>
>
> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/net/ConnectivityManager.html#requestBandwidthUpdate(android.net.Network)
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> Andreas
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Blake Matheny <bmatheny@fb.com> wrote:
>
>> No Operator would share that kind of information from their base station.
>> That is a non-starter. The base stations are busy with what they usually do
>> best - delivering as many bits as possible to the UEs attached to it.
>>
>> Vijay
>>
>>
>> I’ve had discussions with carriers that would contradict that statement.
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