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Re: [Marnew] RFC 6077

Ca By <cb.list6@gmail.com> Thu, 24 September 2015 12:49 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Marnew] RFC 6077
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On Thursday, September 24, 2015, Blake Matheny <bmatheny@fb.com> wrote:

> I’ve asked a couple of vendors for congestion hints in a variety of ways.
> So far, no luck :) I would really like to see this as well.
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The problem is these hints are too ephemeral and dynamic to be useful.
Someone turns on a microwave oven and congestion becomes high ....

This just seems to be more signalling without actionable information. I
belive tcp already provides these hints


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> On 9/24/15, 7:34 AM, "Marnew on behalf of Smith, Kevin, (R&D) Vodafone
> Group" <marnew-bounces@iab.org <javascript:;> on behalf of
> Kevin.Smith@vodafone.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
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> >Hi Michael,
> >Thanks for reminding me - Bob Briscoe also recommended 6077, especially
> when considering the impact of providing congestion hints (namely in the
> Mobile Throughput Guidance draft). Certainly we need to make sure that such
> efforts do not merely shift the bottleneck to cause problems elsewhere. So
> as you say we can review those challenges - if not in detail at the
> workshop then on the mailing list.
> >All best
> >Kevin
> >
> >"Scharf, Michael (Michael)" <michael.scharf@alcatel-lucent.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >On the MarNew page, I see some ideas related to
> network-support/network-assisted congestion control. The IRTF has written
> some time ago RFC 6077, and it could be useful to review the challenges in
> Section 3.1 therein. Of course, parts of that RFC may be outdated.
> >
> >Michael (co-author of RFC 6077)
> >
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