Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 first paragraph
Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Wed, 29 September 2010 14:36 UTC
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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 16:35:41 +0200
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Subject: Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 first paragraph
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Hi, I wasn't suggesting to mandate Outbound. It was more of a question of clarification, and I think I got an answer from Adam. Regards, Christer ________________________________________ From: Richard Shockey [richard@shockey.us] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 5:24 PM To: 'Adam Roach'; Christer Holmberg Cc: martini@ietf.org; 'Hadriel Kaplan' Subject: RE: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 first paragraph Thank you for that .. NO mandate OUTBOUND. -----Original Message----- From: martini-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:martini-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adam Roach Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:37 AM To: Christer Holmberg Cc: martini@ietf.org; Hadriel Kaplan Subject: Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 first paragraph On 09/28/2010 11:33 PM, Christer Holmberg wrote: >>> You can look at it that way, or you can look at it a different way: all GIN is (supposed) to be doing is>>specifying a means to use REGISTER for bulk contacts >> I don't think that's a complete description. >> >> What MARTINI is chartered to do is "standardize a multiple-AoR >> registration mechanism for SIP", *and* (here's the important part) >> "accommodate existing SIP extensions relating to registration by >> ensuring that they are not precluded from use >> in the context of multiple AoR registrations". >> >> In other words, we need to specify a means to use REGISTER for bulk >> contacts *and* to fix anything that breaks. > Shouldn't we then also mandate the support of Outbound, to make sure it works if the PBX is behind a NAT? > No. Because, although that is a problem, it is not a problem that MARTINI has made worse. /a _______________________________________________ martini mailing list martini@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/martini
- [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 first pa… Elwell, John
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Adam Roach
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Andrew Allen
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Elwell, John
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Elwell, John
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Adam Roach
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Richard Shockey
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Brian Lindsay
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Adam Roach
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Brian Lindsay
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Adam Roach
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Elwell, John
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Brian Lindsay
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Adam Roach
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Adam Roach
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Richard Shockey
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Brian Lindsay
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Brian Lindsay
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Brian Lindsay
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Adam Roach
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Adam Roach
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)