Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 first paragraph

"Richard Shockey" <richard@shockey.us> Wed, 29 September 2010 14:23 UTC

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Cc: 'Hadriel Kaplan' <HKaplan@acmepacket.com>, martini@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 first paragraph
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Thank you for that .. NO mandate OUTBOUND.

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Subject: Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 first paragraph

  On 09/28/2010 11:33 PM, Christer Holmberg wrote:
>>> You can look at it that way, or you can look at it a different way: all
GIN is (supposed) to be doing is>>specifying a means to use REGISTER for
bulk contacts
>> I don't think that's a complete description.
>>
>> What MARTINI is chartered to do is "standardize a multiple-AoR
>> registration mechanism for SIP", *and* (here's the important part)
>> "accommodate existing SIP extensions relating to registration by
>> ensuring that they are not precluded from use
>> in the context of multiple AoR registrations".
>>
>> In other words, we need to specify a means to use REGISTER for bulk
>> contacts *and* to fix anything that breaks.
> Shouldn't we then also mandate the support of Outbound, to make sure it
works if the PBX is behind a NAT?
>

No. Because, although that is a problem, it is not a problem that 
MARTINI has made worse.

/a
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