Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Public GRUUs

Bernard Aboba <bernarda@microsoft.com> Thu, 09 September 2010 19:52 UTC

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From: Bernard Aboba <bernarda@microsoft.com>
To: Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us>
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+1 (speaking as an individual).  

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Subject: Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Public GRUUs

And to restate my position the preferred bar should be "SP SHOULD support"
vs MUST support for Public GRUU's 

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Subject: Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Public GRUUs

Christer,

REQ-16 is satisfied, since the mechanism does allow this. What we are
discussing is whether the SP MUST support that mechanism.

John
 

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:martini-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Christer Holmberg
> Sent: 07 September 2010 13:31
> To: Adam Roach; Brian Lindsay
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> Subject: Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Public GRUUs
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> >>Also, what precludes usage of GRUU's internally within 
> >>an enterprise as long as the PBX doesn't send them towards 
> >>the network?
> > 
> >That kinda defeats the purpose of using GRUUs.
> 
> We do have a requirement saying:
> 
>  REQ16:  The mechanism MUST allow the SIP-PBX to provide its UAs with
>            public or temporary Globally Routable UA URIs (GRUUs)
>            [RFC5627].
> 
> So, doesn't that mean that unless the GRUUs are provided by 
> the SSP, the PBX has to generate them itself?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Christer
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