Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 first paragraph
Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> Tue, 28 September 2010 21:59 UTC
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Subject: Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 first paragraph
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On 9/28/10 12:32, Sep 28, Hadriel Kaplan wrote: > You can look at it that way, or you can look at it a different way: all GIN is (supposed) to be doing is specifying a means to use REGISTER for bulk contacts I don't think that's a complete description. What MARTINI is chartered to do is "standardize a multiple-AoR registration mechanism for SIP", *and* (here's the important part) "accommodate existing SIP extensions relating to registration by ensuring that they are not precluded from use in the context of multiple AoR registrations". In other words, we need to specify a means to use REGISTER for bulk contacts *and* to fix anything that breaks. I maintain that John's proposed text is important to fix something that has broken. The MARTINI architecture has multiplicatively increased the barrier to GRUU deployment. That's broken. And we need to fix it. John's proposed text does so. /a
- [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 first pa… Elwell, John
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Adam Roach
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Andrew Allen
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Elwell, John
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Elwell, John
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Adam Roach
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Richard Shockey
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Brian Lindsay
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Adam Roach
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Brian Lindsay
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Adam Roach
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Elwell, John
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Brian Lindsay
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Adam Roach
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Adam Roach
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Richard Shockey
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Brian Lindsay
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Brian Lindsay
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Brian Lindsay
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Adam Roach
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… Adam Roach
- Re: [martini] New text for gin section 7.1.1 firs… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)