Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Public GRUUs
"Richard Shockey" <richard@shockey.us> Mon, 30 August 2010 15:23 UTC
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Subject: Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Public GRUUs
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RS> this is helpful. No, it's not the privacy issue. We're discussing public GRUUs, which provide no more privacy than AORs. Pretty much every part of my message that you didn't quote above goes over exactly what causes this problem. I don't know if you didn't read it, or if my writing is just that bad, but I'll have another run at explaining it. The problem is that we have two registrars, and they *both* need to support GRUU before it can be used. So, for example, when GRUU implementation has reached 10% in registrars overall, then only 1% (10% * 10%) of GIN systems will be able to make use of GRUU. Even when we reach 50% node deployment, we're still stuck at 25% of GIN systems that can support GRUU. That's how MARTINI has made the problem demonstrably worse than the general case. With this proposed solution (mandating *public* GRUU usage in SSPs), all we're doing is returning to the status quo. (Note that we're *not* requiring PBXes to use GRUUs, only for SSPs to allow them to do so). /a
- Re: [martini] Consensus call: Resolution of Ticke… Brian Lindsay
- [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Public … Bernard Aboba
- Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Pub… Andrew Allen
- [martini] Consensus call: Resolution of Ticket #57 Bernard Aboba
- Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Pub… Brian Lindsay
- Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Pub… Adam Roach
- Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Pub… Mary Barnes
- Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Pub… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Pub… Richard Shockey
- Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Pub… Adam Roach
- Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Pub… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Pub… Richard Shockey
- Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Pub… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Pub… Brian Lindsay
- Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Pub… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Pub… Brian Lindsay
- Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Pub… Adam Roach
- Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Pub… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [martini] Consensus call: Resolution of Ticke… Elwell, John
- Re: [martini] Consensus call: Resolution of Ticke… Andrew Allen
- Re: [martini] Consensus call: Resolution of Ticke… Elwell, John
- Re: [martini] Consensus call: Resolution of Ticke… bruno.chatras
- Re: [martini] Consensus call: Resolution of Ticke… Richard Shockey
- Re: [martini] Consensus call: Resolution of Ticke… Richard Shockey
- Re: [martini] Consensus call: Resolution of Ticke… Adam Roach
- Re: [martini] Consensus call: Resolution of Ticke… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [martini] Consensus call: Resolution of Ticke… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [martini] Consensus call: Resolution of Ticke… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [martini] Consensus call: Resolution of Ticke… Richard Shockey
- Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Pub… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Pub… Elwell, John
- Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Pub… Richard Shockey
- Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Pub… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Pub… Alan Johnston
- Re: [martini] Consensus call: Resolution of Ticke… Dean Willis
- Re: [martini] Consensus call: Resolution of Ticke… Christer Holmberg