Re: [martini] REMINDER: Ongoing MARTINI WG lastCall on "Registration for Multiple Phone Numbers in the SIP"

Hi Spencer,

I think the applicability of the 'friends' solution is wider than just 3GPP IMS networks. This solution is required when non-E.164 numbers or email-style URI have to be supported and/or when the involved PBXs expect the Request-URI to contain the actual target identity rather than something based on a contact address. The criteria for a PBX to decide whether to send one tag or the other or both need to be documented somewhere. Same for the SSP behavior when both tags are received and both mechanisms are supported.

Best Regards,
Bruno

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Spencer Dawkins [mailto:spencer@wonderhamster.org] 
> Envoyé : mardi 20 juillet 2010 17:11
> À : Elwell, John; Richard Shockey; CHATRAS Bruno RD-CORE-ISS; 
> bernard_aboba@hotmail.com; martini@ietf.org
> Objet : Re: [martini] REMINDER: Ongoing MARTINI WG lastCall 
> on "Registration for Multiple Phone Numbers in the SIP"
> 
> Hi, Bruno,
> 
> Speaking as co-chair,
> 
> What Bernard and I told Gonzalo was that we expected to have 
> 3GPP CT1 send a request to the ADs requesting guidance on how 
> to get a second option tag allocated, and let the ADs provide 
> guidance from that point.
> 
> I can't imagine that we're talking about doing anything 
> beyond an additional IANA allocation in the IETF, so I'm not 
> seeing this as gating for WGLC of the GIN protocol specification.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Spencer
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Elwell, John" <john.elwell@siemens-enterprise.com>
> To: "Richard Shockey" <richard@shockey.us>; 
> <bruno.chatras@orange-ftgroup.com>; 
> <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com>; <martini@ietf.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 11:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [martini] REMINDER: Ongoing MARTINI WG lastCall 
> on "Registration for Multiple Phone Numbers in the SIP"
> 
> 
> I agree with Richard. My recollection of the discussion was 
> that it leaned towards there not being a dependency between 
> the two drafts - the two can proceed at their own rates.
> 
> John
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: martini-bounces@ietf.org
> > [mailto:martini-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Richard Shockey
> > Sent: 19 July 2010 16:40
> > To: bruno.chatras@orange-ftgroup.com;
> > bernard_aboba@hotmail.com; martini@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [martini] REMINDER: Ongoing MARTINI WG last Call on 
> > "Registration for Multiple Phone Numbers in the SIP"
> >
> > My memory of the conversation was quite clear.  The two 
> approaches are 
> > orthogonal. Gin is NOT dependant on FRIENDS or the other 
> way around. 
> > Each approach should have its own option tag. There is NOT 
> a one size 
> > fits all solution.
> >
> >
> >
> > The friends solution can certainly propose a option tag on 
> its own in 
> > the usual way IETG WG way but the two are NOT part of a 
> single draft.
> >
> >
> >
> > As far as I'm concerned the WGLC should proceed as normal.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: martini-bounces@ietf.org
> > [mailto:martini-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of 
> > bruno.chatras@orange-ftgroup.com
> > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 9:01 AM
> > To: bernard_aboba@hotmail.com; martini@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [martini] REMINDER: Ongoing MARTINI WG last Call on 
> > "Registration for Multiple Phone Numbers in the SIP"
> >
> >
> >
> > Looking to the minutes of the MARTINI Interim V virtual meeting, it 
> > seems that the discussion about 
> "draft-vanelburg-martini-friends-00" 
> > was inconclusive as to whether a change was required to the "gin" 
> > draft. I don't think the WGLC can be completed before we have 
> > clarified the interactions between "gin" and "friends".
> >
> > Bruno
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > De : martini-bounces@ietf.org
> > [mailto:martini-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Bernard 
> Aboba Envoyé : 
> > jeudi 15 juillet 2010 19:57 À : martini@ietf.org Objet : [martini] 
> > REMINDER: Ongoing MARTINI WG last Call on "Registration for 
> Multiple 
> > Phone Numbers in the SIP"
> >
> > This is a reminder of an ongoing MARTINI WG last call on 
> "Registration 
> > for Multiple Phone Numbers in the SIP" prior to requesting that the 
> > IESG publish the document as a Proposed Standard.
> >
> > The document is available for inspection here:
> >
> > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-martini-gin-05.txt
> >
> > MARTINI WG last call will conclude on Thursday, July 22, 2010.
> >
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> >
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