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Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Public GRUUs

Brian Lindsay <brian.lindsay@genband.com> Mon, 30 August 2010 21:32 UTC

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From: Brian Lindsay <brian.lindsay@genband.com>
To: Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com>, "martini@ietf.org" <martini@ietf.org>
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Hi,

  If GIN truly "breaks" SIP, then wouldn't that mean that SIP PBXs, and their UA's, would also need to be mandated to support GRUU (which doesn't seem to be the suggestion).

  Now perhaps something like an out-of-dialog REFER for Call Transfer to the SIP PBX won't be possible without GRUU. But is that truly a mandatory capability that is required to be supported as part of a basic SIP PBX offering by a service provider? Or would be ubiquitously supported/allowed by SIP PBXs?

 Thanks
     Brian

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Subject: Re: [martini] Call for Consensus: Support for Public GRUUs


GIN breaks significant parts of SIP without GRUUs (or some equivalent functionality) so I think we need GRUUs to be required to be implement on the SSP side of GIN. 


On Aug 28, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Bernard Aboba wrote:

> At the IETF 78 MARTINI WG meeting, during the discussion of Ticket 57 (relating to temporary GRUUs), a suggestion was made that public GRUUs be mandatory to implement for SSPs.  
> 
> We will now attempt to determine whether consensus exists within the MARTINI WG to make this change to the document. 
> 
> Please respond to this email and post your opinion as to whether you agree that SSPs supporting MARTINI MUST implement support for public GRUUs. 
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> This consensus call will last until September 12, 2010.  
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